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| After reading a lot of this board over the last few weeks I've got to ask about what motivates you to buy a season ticket. I haven't had one last 2-3 years as I live and work far enough away that Thurs/Fridays were a non starter. Next year now I'm back in Wazza we're looking at possibly doing something corporate.
For me, I've been watching for a long time before we were good, so names on the shirts isn't that important.
But for some I've seen that they won't consider buying one until signings are announced.
So what drives you to get one. Are you WTID, or a more recent fan who wants us to look competitive on paper before parting with your cash ?
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| I buy one because its cheaper than paying for each game.
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| I don't bother as can only get to a % of games
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| I will be watching next year. I'm a fan of Warrington, and a fan of rugby in general, occasionally going to games as a neutral (notable favorite was popping over to Wrexham to watch Crusaders last ever game).
Season ticket for us is purely a financial and convenience decision.
In past seasons, a season ticket had more value. The big home games were often a sellout, and we progressed in the cups and playoffs, so we could get ticket preference on those games.
Recently it's value has diminished, especially considering the fixtures could land on any one of four days.
However I will be most likely getting mine renewed as my Christmas present, like every other year, and I will be happy with that.
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| Quote ="Jimathay"
In past seasons, a season ticket had more value. The big home games were often a sellout, and we progressed in the cups and playoffs, so we could get ticket preference on those games.
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Thing is I have never failed to be able to get a ticket for any game to watch the Wire (East, North, South or West). When it comes to Old Trafford or Wembley I go to the RFL for tickets anyway rather than queue up outside the shop.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Thing is I have never failed to be able to get a ticket for any game to watch the Wire (East, North, South or West). When it comes to Old Trafford or Wembley I go to the RFL for tickets anyway rather than queue up outside the shop.'"
Ditto we were the same before we got season tickets. Never had a problem. I suppose it's more the (mild) convenience factor of not having to buy match tickets each week, or think on that we're playing Wigan so we could do with getting them earlier in the week as the South Stand might sell out.
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| i gave mine up 3 years ago when i could no longer stomach Smith.
I will get one again this season and i cant wait.
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| I'm not sure how many games these days you have to miss for a season ticket to lose it's value cf 'pay on the day'? I had a season ticket here and also a season ticket at a 'local' Association Football Club and a clash generally mean't missing the Wire (not a true fan) so now pay on the day.
I've never been disappointed by not being able to get in as a previous correspondent has mentioned, so the flexibility of 'pay as you go' works for me
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| Saturday is my working week so it counts me out. I'll give up a wage for a Wembley visit.
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| I've a friend who has a season ticket for Wolverhampton Wanderers but only goes to about half the games due to travelling distances.
When I asked him why he bothers with the season ticket he said, rather altruistically:
"It's just my way for supporting my club, physically when I can go, and financially still when I can't."
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"I've a friend who has a season ticket for Wolverhampton Wanderers but only goes to about half the games due to travelling distances.
When I asked him why he bothers with the season ticket he said, rather altruistically:
"It's just my way for supporting my club, physically when I can go, and financially still when I can't."'"
A nice approach. Personally I am just not able to attend as many as i used to due to £££ and time. Used to go home and away, now a season ticket wouldn't be value for money.
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| Had a season ticket every year that we have been at the HJ and some seasons at Wilderspool before that. Went several seasons at Wilderspool without a season ticket as I was living down south and could only get to a handful of games per season. Midway through this season I changed jobs and my new days/hours meant I could no longer get to Thursday, Friday or Saturday games hence I managed to get to less than half our home games and none in the second half of the season.
I have recently changed my hours thinking ahead to next season meaning I will be able to attend Friday or Sunday games, but unless I can swap shifts around Thursday (possible) and Saturday (almost impossible) will be missed. Knowing my luck, the club will continue with the Saturday game slot!
I won't be buying a season ticket for the first time in many years.
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| As with all things sky ,the fans who want to support their teams from the terraces are the last people to be considered. Sky might be happy for you to support any particular team or any sport but ultimately they want you to support sky £££££ .
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| Quote ="ninearches"As with all things sky ,the fans who want to support their teams from the terraces are the last people to be considered. Sky might be happy for you to support any particular team or any sport but ultimately they want you to support sky £££££ .'"
Yet again I will state:
Sky put the offer on the table, it was the SL chairmen who voted (in majority) to accept it. They are the ones who made the decision which affects their fans on their terraces through accepting the changing kick off times and dates in accordance with that TV deal.
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| Doesnt the Sky payment dwarf ticket receipts anyway?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I'm not sure how many games these days you have to miss for a season ticket to lose it's value cf 'pay on the day'? I had a season ticket here and also a season ticket at a 'local' Association Football Club and a clash generally mean't missing the Wire (not a true fan) so now pay on the day.
I've never been disappointed by not being able to get in as a previous correspondent has mentioned, so the flexibility of 'pay as you go' works for me'"
I think it’s 3 or possibly 4, either way it’s simple enough to do the maths.
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| Quote ="karetaker"I think it’s 3 or possibly 4, either way it’s simple enough to do the maths.'"
Thanks, I asked on the basis of not knowing what the prices are rather than finding a method of working it out
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| Quote ="karetaker"I think it’s 3 or possibly 4, either way it’s simple enough to do the maths.'"
I usually miss a couple of games per season due to holidays so it was still worth getting a season ticket. This year I've missed 6 or 7 though. I'm not going to bother next year, just pay on the gate and get spares from mates when they can't go. My lad lost interest altogether this season and only used his season ticket twice.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Doesnt the Sky payment dwarf ticket receipts anyway?'"
Well, some rather dubious maths, might suggest:
From the £200m for 5 years Sky TV deal, the SL clubs will each receive £1.825m per year.
If we say Wires have a average gate of 9000 for 14 home games at £20 per ticket then total gate receipts would be £2.5m
Albeit the matchday supporter might then spend more on the day (programme, refreshments, merch), then offset by running costs (those pesky spectators need looking after, stewards, police, etc).
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| I have renewed again for next season prior to the sacking of Smith. Last season was poor entertainment wise but I still enjoy going to the game.
I know full well unless I have my season ticket I would find an excuse to spend the money on something else so it's my way of ensuring my ticket is already sorted.
I'm thoroughly looking forward to next season already. I think it's going to be a tough one but we are fortunate the SL isn't particularly strong at the moment which could help us with our rebuild. I'm hoping we as the fans see this as a clean slate and get behind the team regardless of results because it isn't going to be easy.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Well, some rather dubious maths, might suggest:
From the £200m for 5 years Sky TV deal, the SL clubs will each receive £1.825m per year.
If we say Wires have a average gate of 9000 for 14 home games at £20 per ticket then total gate receipts would be £2.5m
Albeit the matchday supporter might then spend more on the day (programme, refreshments, merch), then offset by running costs (those pesky spectators need looking after, stewards, police, etc).'"
£40m per annum / 12 clubs is £3.33M. Where does the balance go - RFL running costs? We know that Wood is on £0.4M.
Ticket receipts, less VAT = £2.08M.
Also didn't Broomhead say that the club was subsidising beer by 30p a pint?
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I found the details as:
The five-year deal breaks down as follows:
The amount being paid for club and international matches will be £182,200,000 in total.
Of that total, £146,760,000, or 80 per cent, will go to Super League clubs.
£14,576,000 or 8 per cent, will go to the twelve Championship clubs in the second tier.
£1,822,000, or one per cent, will go to the Championship One clubs.
£20,042,000, or 11 per cent, will be paid for Challenge Cup and internationals coverage.
For that, Sky Sports will broadcast 71 Super League games per season, 17 Championship games and one Championship one game, while they will also broadcast eleven Challenge Cup games.
BSkyB will also pay another £17,800,000 during the course of the contract, and that money will be paid for coaching and to the clubs’ charitable foundations, with the first payment of £100,000 per club being made in July.
Under the terms of the new contract the annual payment to Super League clubs will rise to £1,825,000 per club, which will just about cover the salary cap.
www.totalrl.com/ins-outs-super-l ... w-tv-deal/
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I found the details as:
The five-year deal breaks down as follows:
The amount being paid for club and international matches will be £182,200,000 in total.
Of that total, £146,760,000, or 80 per cent, will go to Super League clubs.
£14,576,000 or 8 per cent, will go to the twelve Championship clubs in the second tier.
£1,822,000, or one per cent, will go to the Championship One clubs.
£20,042,000, or 11 per cent, will be paid for Challenge Cup and internationals coverage.
For that, Sky Sports will broadcast 71 Super League games per season, 17 Championship games and one Championship one game, while they will also broadcast eleven Challenge Cup games.
BSkyB will also pay another £17,800,000 during the course of the contract, and that money will be paid for coaching and to the clubs’ charitable foundations, with the first payment of £100,000 per club being made in July.
Under the terms of the new contract the annual payment to Super League clubs will rise to £1,825,000 per club, which will just about cover the salary cap.
www.totalrl.com/ins-outs-super-l ... w-tv-deal/
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| Noting not all the money goes to SL clubs, the bit I didn't understand is the:
£146m to go to SL clubs (where 12 clubs over 5 years = £146m/12/5 = £2.4m)
but later on it says
Annual payment to SL clubs.... £1.825m per club (£1.825 * 12 * 5 = £109.5m)
Hence there's £36.5m of the SL money going somewhere else ?
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| Anyway the point wan't to debate the ins/out of the TV deal, but to look at the contribution of matchdays takings compared to TV money, where, even for a well supported club such as Wires they are reasonably comparable.
Hence without the TV deal we'd have to double our attendance, and I guess that the percentage of fans who don't attend because of the TV is easily offset by the TV income.
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| Thanks for the figures. Yeah a 10% drop in attendance isn't going to worry us.
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