Forgive me for moaning what's the score on Ben Currie and Harvey Livett comeback I mean Ben was injured in September last year and still no return when Tony club had a major organ removed and is back playing 58 days later who is in charge of the medical welfare of the players Harold shipman.

I'm not sure about Harvey Livett but Ben Curries injury was a serious cruciate knee ligament. The type of injury Manfredi got at Wigan. I think he's been out longer than Ben Currie.

Just as a comparison Stevie Ward at Leeds got pretty much the same injury in Round 30 in 2015 and didn't come back until mid way through the Middle 8's in 2016.

Manfredi got injured 2nd week of August last year.
Currie got injured mid September I think.

Manfredi is a couple of weeks off/start of middle 8s.

Personally I would not bother playing Currie this year. There is no point that I can see. He won't be the difference between relegation or not, I'd rather give him more time.

I actually think he could well be the difference between us staying up or going down - as it stands we're going down. This is a fully-fledged crisis.

How about Will Dagger? Any news?

club just tweeted that he's back in the gym this morning(on a bike though)

Does anybody think that there'll be relegation clauses in some players contracts, the deluded hierarchy will have blindly assumed that they'd never be triggered.

If there are clauses, and Currie doesn't play again this season, may not see him in a Warrington shirt again if we get relegated, as there's no way a) Players like him, Hill, Clark will stick around playing championship rugby and b) Unless Uncle Simon is going to foot the bill, we couldn't afford them

Your joking right?
I'll play him on one leg first...he plays because if he doesn't, he'll not be paying in a Wire shirt ever again.

League rules, all contracts null and void at time of relegation.

Cheers, so if we're relegated we'll not see those players in a Warrington shirt again.

We will be able to play all games on Victoria Park then

Pleased to hear that. Although I was at the other end of the ground it looked serious. Hope he makes a full recovery soon.

Wasn't the championship Salary cap raised to the same as super league? So we could afford the majority of the team if we did go down, I may be wrong about that but I know something increased?
Currie is running and back doing light training so I think we should see him back around the end of July for the Middle 8's.
I'd like to say there's no way we would be relegated but there's a very real danger of it, Hull KR, London and Bradford could cause havoc on their day


I'm hoping the Middle 8's will give us the Kick up the ass we need to start performing as I can't see us making the top 8. I'll still support them whatever but that ship has now sailed, hit an iceberg, sank, then exploded.

It would be ironic if some of our players got on their bikes if we get relegated. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory this year & i am sure that all our problems are not just down to Smith & Agar.

Salary cap is same across the three leagues afaik. Was increased last year in championship after Leigh pushed for promotion and streamlined in 2017.

No idea if cap is related to turnover, if it was, we do turn over more than 200% of cap.

Sounds as though we will have a few players returning from injury this week according to the Guardian; Westwood, Pomeroy, Patton and Lineham. For the Wigan match Ben Currie should also be available.

think the championship salary cap mirrors superleague so it will be £1.9m in 2018 as long as the true salary spend does not exceed 50% of the "relevant income"......what ever the RFL deem relevant is anybodies guess though..

But Seriously I can't see you being in any threat of not being in SL next year even if you have to play middle 8's

Haven't we spent a large part of the season already thinking that things will all be okay once so and so returns from injury, yet so far its never really made much difference?

If we don't solve the underlying cancerous malaise in the club we are down irrespective of whether he plays or not. Cast your mind back, remember when we were going to find form and string results together when Hill and Ratchford were back? How did that work out...

Bradford, seriously

at least have a look at the Champ table before making comments like that - every likelihood they will be relegated to Champ one.

As a Leigh fan I only see HKR as a threat - but a very serious one, M8s are going through me very interesting, shame it sounds as though it's going to be binned ongoing

Going down - are you serious?! just have a gander at the SL table. My club, Leigh, are below you and if anyone goes down, I can see it being us, the way we are losing to all and sundry around us in the table.

Unless TWO SL teams get relegated, of course!

Leigh, Widnes and Catalan are at least showing a bit of fight and even when they lose they're showing enough to suggest that they have a chance. Hull KR will be a threat to anyone, and I'm sure we'll be seen as a huge scalp for London, Featherstone, Toulouse or Halifax (whoever makes the 8s).

I'd like to think that when the reality of the situation hits the players, injured players come back and new players find their feet then we'll cruise through the middle eights, however if things don't change I can see us struggling to even make it into the MPG.