I can remember when we signed exciting players [*we should have pouched barba we will sign more journey men I'm sure.at the moment we are as dull as dishwater

Doesn't take a great feat of memory to remember Sandow to be fair.

Difficult to claim you don't have any ambition when you have spent hundred of thousands of pounds on transfer fees and signed Sandow in recent seasons.

Your squad at the start of next season will tell you if you have any ambition. You've got 12 or so off contract so have plenty of room for big changes. I'd expect Gidley and Sims to be gone and replaced with better players. Fullback isn't your main area of concern at the moment, so it's not a showstopper that you've missed out on Barba.

thats more like it.....and you are Correct on the fullback front.

If anyone watches those videos of Barba running in great tries he's making runs up the middle of the park feeding of nice passes or good offloads.
what's he going to feed off for us at the minute... Ashtons Sims crazy offloads or Kevin Browns head high bullet passes??

a quality organising half back is a must....we simply haven't replaced Lee Briers.....

Mind you Saints have only just replaced Paul Wellens....

We're the biggest spenders in the league: how does that show a lack of ambition? You can claim the money has been poorly spent, or that players that were brought in aren't up to it, but that's another matter. Fact is, with no decent Aussies available, and a dearth of talent in SL at the moment, there's not much to throw your money at: we're brought the likes of Clark, Lineham, Westerman, Brown and paid fees. I hardly think that's lacking ambition.

What we really need now is a show-stopping, excitement building, get bums on seats and make us real contenders type signing. I don't watch the NRL enough, or stay close enough to the various dodgy fire-sale type players (Monaghan, Sandow, Barba) to know who that might be, but we risk being left behind and drifting back into the middle of the pack where we find ourselves now if we don't, I fear. A top class half back is a must. With Ratch a FB, Clark at DH, Westerman at LF I think we're pretty close to having a top class spine-we need a marque half though, and I hope Moran is prepared to dig deep for one/we have the contacts to make it happen.

Signing Barba certainly would have shown the ambition to take us back to the early-mid 2000s.

Weren't Saints supposed to be skint?

Was it you who was saying KC left because of the lack of money, where has this money come from, have you got new investors?

We couldn't offer him a marquee spot.

Come on then who is the marquee we've signed for next season....done deal no doubt. Lets have a name and no cryptic

Sworn to social media secrecy I'm afraid.

Well if thats the case why do you post anything in the first place if you are as you say sworn to secrecy

To tell you what I can tell you and let you speculate, some posters guessimates have been quite interesting.
It's all good fun too.....

Or should we just talk the same stuff about Brown, Russell and Evans every day?

I can't believe we could ever have been seriously in for Barba if we were unable to offer him a marquee spot.

I agree to a point speculation can be interesting but I'm sorry RD all the "done deal" stuff doesn't help your case if of course you are bothered/interested?

I don't know about "social media secrecy" if this one doesn't come off it'll be 'social media idiocy'.

BTW I think that on the whole we are ambitious they may not have all come off and perhaps we should be higher up the table v money spent but that kind of proves the point, ambition doesn't always equate to results

For me, one thing that can't be levelled at the club is lack of ambition. We've recently acquired some of the best players from other SL clubs including mos Clarke. Barba is the first noteworthy signing saints have made for quite a while and I can't see where any club has been more proactive in the transfer market than ourselves. Some of those transfers, so far, haven't lived up to expectations, but it sounds like the board are going out again to find us some top players to give us, once again, the best chance possible.

Barba was the most talented player available players of his age and quality are not available we have missed out big time we will replace gidley and Sims for two more past there best Aussie's​ is it only me that thinks we are dull ?

Players are more likely to earn a more money at Wire without a marquee spot than at Saints within one.

With the new salary cap rule on returning players from RU I reckon we could.

A quality half back is going to be very hard to find. No home grown ones and quality aussies already tied up on long term contracts

Theres no doubt we are an ambitious club, the doubt is with some of the bog standard players Smith keeps signing. Clark and Westerman are brilliant signings, Lineham is proving his worth again now and home grown players like Currie (only a month a way from playing) and Harvey Livett, morgan smith etc are exciting prospects. But we need some quality signings at the club while these players develop which we just aren't signing. I'm just hoping we sign a couple of real quality signings for the new season and not pick up some more players that are risky and we're taking a chance on. I would rather sign consistant players that aren't world beaters then a couple of chance players in the hope they are awesome.

Patton could grown into one of the best English talents in the game if he was just given the time to develop and allowed to grow into the role and the shirt. every halfback needs the time to be able to put their own stamp on the squads game.

I don't think the club's ambition should be in question. On paper the squad is as good as any other in the league, we've yet to put out our first choice 13 this season but for me this squad is underachieving. For me that means the coaching staff aren't getting the best out of the team and questions should be asked of them. Perhaps it's time for Smith to freshen up his coaching team again.

We had a class half-back. Sadly he buggered off to fight people on the streets of Queensland. Nobody in SL is anywhere close to bringing us what Briers brought when he was playing, maybe Williams but that's not happening.

What do contracts have to do with it these days though eh?

I can't help but think we'll have had serious discussions with Barba, and that of we had wanted we could have offered more money than Saints. For whatever reason we either didn't, or did and he still chose Saints anyway.

I would have liked Barba here, and whilst it's good for SL I'm disappointed one of our biggest rivals have signed him. However, being objective about it, we need a half much more than a FB, so if there's any chance we can use our marquee on one, it would IMO likely be money better spent.

We keep telling ourselves this don't we. The truth is our backs are pretty average and we lack pace across the side and we don't know what our best team is.

We play full backs on the wing, half backs at full back, half backs at Hooker, defensive second rowers at centre and today I read in the guardian we will be playing a non-ball playing forward at loose.