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| SL clubs have voted to increase the salary cap in stages to a mx of £2.1 million by 2020. There are also changes to the Marquee ruling which allows a club to have 2 marquee players. Here the rules seem more confusing ........
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"Increase in number of Marquee Players
• Each Super League club would be entitled to dispensation for two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap value would be (but for the Regulation) £175k or more.
• The Regulation would distinguish between Marquee Players as follows: (i) Club Trained Marquee Players be deemed to have a Salary Cap Value of £75k; and (ii) all other Marquee Players be deemed to have a Salary Cap Value of £150k."
So reading the above does a marquee player who is not club trained have a value on the cap of £175k or £150k (as per the regulation)
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| I think put simply
Wigan, Sam T (eg) only £75k will be reduced from the £2.1m club cap although he will be paid £xxxxxxs
Wire, Clark £150k comes off our £2.1m cap but will get £xxxxxxs
2 marquee......the down side is....it opens the door of new negotiation from Pies to keep George Williams.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"
......the down side is....it opens the door of new negotiation from Pies to keep George Williams.
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But at least he'll stay in our game as opposed to the NRL. Overall its a good thing that the cap has been increased but I still think they should have gone further and had a bigger cap with marquee players not counting against it. Only then would we be able to compete against RU and the NRL
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| [iSo reading the above does a marquee player who is not club trained have a value on the cap of £175k or £150k (as per the regulation)
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I think it means that a non club trained player only counts as £150K on the cap, but to qualify as a marquee player the club must be paying him £175k or more.
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| I'd have gone one further and scrapped it all together, we must be the only sport that stops it's money men from investing in it..!
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I think put simply
Wigan, Sam T (eg) only £75k will be reduced from the £2.1m club cap although he will be paid £xxxxxxs
Wire, Clark £150k comes off our £2.1m cap but will get £xxxxxxs
2 marquee......the down side is....it opens the door of new negotiation from Pies to keep George Williams.
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Pies to keep George Williams......There goes your £200 bet with Rouges.
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| I only bet with the bookies.
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| George Williams will be coming for trophies.
Does the salary cap increase & new marquee player rule mean we will now be able to entice top southern hemisphere players over here or that we will just be paying more for the same quality that has been available for the last few years ? I fear the latter.
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| You find a post where I agree to that and I'll triple it, and pay it now wether he comes in Nov or not.
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| Stupid cap increase. Does absolutely nothing to stave off the threat from RU or NRL and jointly absolutely nothing to help entice players from either sport to Superleague. We'll just ending spending the extra cap on the Matty Russell's / Ryan Atkins of this world.
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Quote ="rubber duckie"You find a post where I agree to that and I'll triple it, and pay it now wether he comes in Nov or not.'"
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A bit like your post that we were in for Todd Carney, I can't see the bit where RD accepts the bet with Rogues am I missing something?
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A bit like your post that we were in for Todd Carney, I can't see the bit where RD accepts the bet with Rogues am I missing something?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"A bit like your post that we were in for Todd Carney, I can't see the bit where RD accepts the bet with Rogues am I missing something?'"
I can't see the bit where he didn't accept it
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| Quote ="MikeyWire"I'd have gone one further and scrapped it all together, we must be the only sport that stops it's money men from investing in it..!'"
NFL, NHL, MLS, CFL, NLL, NWSL, NBA, AFL, A-League, and Cricket in T20 leagues all have salary caps.
Our salary cap will still be too low compared to Rugby Union and NRL.
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| It's not enough it will be spent on retaining players rather than bringing players in
Should be closer to 3/3.5m to have an impact on the quality of players we can realistically attract
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Stupid cap increase. Does absolutely nothing to stave off the threat from RU or NRL and jointly absolutely nothing to help entice players from either sport to Superleague. We'll just ending spending the extra cap on the Matty Russell's / Ryan Atkins of this world.'"
It's a step in the right direction though, that has to be positive?
It could mean they George Williams can stay in the SL, it may mean we can keep Clark & Currie happy here in SL, the previous set up wouldn't have allowed that.
I agree it is more a tool for established players to remain in SL, rather than to attract NRL talent, but again, isn't that positive?
Hopefully player retention means we can keep good players here, which can support a better TV contract next time around, so we can look to tweak again.
A big increase now would be a) completely unsustainable and b) create havoc in the player transfer market.
Slow and steady is the way forward.
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| Bit sceptical about this, you see the mess of a squad we have put together on the existing cap, not confident at all that will change under this new cap arrangement, feel it may just be spent on retaining players rather than bringing in better. Jury is out
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| Quote ="Superblue"Bit sceptical about this, you see the mess of a squad we have put together on the existing cap, not confident at all that will change under this new cap arrangement, feel it may just be spent on retaining players rather than bringing in better. Jury is out'"
But that's the main reason for these new measures being put in place, to keep players in SL and try and help the player drain to RU / NRL.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"I can't see the bit where he didn't accept it'"
So by not, not accepting it he must have accepted it.......right!!
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"I can't see the bit where he didn't accept it'"
...and you can't see a dead body but that labels me a murderer?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"But that's the main reason for these new measures being put in place, to keep players in SL and try and help the player drain to RU / NRL.'"
Which is a starting point and a noble cause given the small pool of talent that the sport is operating with. It isn't in itself a panacea for the sport's ills we need to generate interest and attract more participants to our sport as we will not be competing financially with RU or the NRL anytime soon
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"...and you can't see a dead body but that labels me a murderer?'"
Whoa it's no like you to be dramatic
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"...and you can't see a dead body but that labels me a murderer?'"
I'm sure Ian Brady said that. Or was it 2Pac
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Which is a starting point and a noble cause given the small pool of talent that the sport is operating with. It isn't in itself a panacea for the sport's ills we need to generate interest and attract more participants to our sport as we will not be competing financially with RU or the NRL anytime soon'"
Absolutely, if we didn't put something in place it would reduce the quality of the competition and there simply isn't enough money in the game presently to support a greater cap increase.
We need to consolidate our current position then push for a bigger tv contract from 2021.
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