He needs to show some balls + sack his mucker + take Agar with him.Imagine Wane still being at Wigan if he'd lost 6 on the bounce?Another dark day in the history of this club.

Listening to sky post match I'm convinced he's lost it.

He'll never walk away that's for certain

Well every chance of it being 8 on the bounce

Can anyone actually see where the win is coming from? We are clearly much worse than all the other teams even Widnes. And they will see it as their chance to get a vital four-pointer.

Smith not classy enough to do the honourable thing and resign and Moran hasn't got the guts to get rid of his two mates Smith and Agar.

Whole place stinks from top to bottom.

For goodness sake don't turn on Moran.

He's a successful businessman. He loves the club and we should be very thankful he's with us.
Do you remember when we could only dream of getting near the top of the league???

Look - it's crap at the moment. Really crap.
Smith is on borrowed time unless he and the players turn it round.
This season has gone.
We just have to keep out of the middle eights.

But I will argue against anyone who has a go at Moran.
99% of us don't know what the real situation is between him and the coaches.

But he won't put them above Warrington - but neither will he sack them without a plan B

Whole place stinks top to bottom? No

Not sure if anyone is having a go at Moran here - I think people are just saying he needs to get rid of Smith. If Smith is still in charge next week I suspect we will be having a go.

No harm in not having a Plan B when Plan A is the worst defence and attack (and 0 points) in the league.

what's he said? body language between him and chilly was chilly whilst waiting to be interviewed

If Moran's is a top businessman, then he'd take leaf out of one of his contemporary's book, and say " you're fired"

No room for sentiment

Not much between the teams was his first statement

Just usual Tony Smith after-loss garbage.

"We're not that far off"
"Thought our defence was much better"
"Were hurting"
"ahh yeah (x10)"

This is up there with his most ridiculous statements

Andre Savelio will play in reserve grade tomorrow, he needs to work on his defence before he can get back out there for us but he’s determined to do it."

Sorry, but a serious question: am I missing something? Why is that a ridiculous statement?

Our right edge has hardly become rock solid since keeping him out has it. Although I agree, Savelio's defence has been dreadful. But then he keeps in Russel and Evans who have been as bad but without any of the positives. Yes I know we don't have many options but play Livett at centre and drag any player that can play wing/rugby out he reserves to play on the wing.

Are we going to protest against Simon Moran now.

Look at Koukash at Salford, would he have tolerated this?

He'd have been on Twitter after the defeat to Cas:

"This was unacceptable! Things must improve! and they will! mark my words"

There's a man who understands the mood of the fans. We'd have already been through two coaches this season if we had Koukash here.

Maybe the next protest should be, Moran out, Dr Koukash in.

The op basically said "sack smith' there was no attack on Moran...so stop that 'hilarious' cobblers.

People getting over sensitive here. Bankroller or not we're calling on the club owner to make a decision for the good of the club. Something is very wrong. It's not must a blip.

There's no doubt about it, SM will be considering his options but I don't expect him to make ANY changes until he's got a plan b in place to move forward.

Just hope that plan b will gather some pace now.
Shame the way this is ending but that's sport.

It's ridiculous because yet again Smith has made a scapegoat of a young, local player when he could do the same with any number of the 'stars'.

Exactly the point I was making, Savelio scapegoat, Patton scapegoat, yet apart from the win in the training game for Brisbane, dreadful performance after dreadful performance from Brown, Gidley, Russell Evans to name but 4. Do they get hung out by Smith not a chance

Really......

In past seasons if a player fell,out with a coach say , he would ask for a transfer, so what's to stop Patton., say, asking for a transfer?

The jury is still out on Patton for many. In fact, we still can't decide if O'Brien has made good on his early promise at Salford. But he is certainly doing well at the moment and having a big contribution in how Salford play. There's probably many who would happily have him back at full back based how how he is playing.

What we really don't want to do is lose another young halfback and wonder what could have been. Same goes with joe Mellor who seemed to be another that got away.

Rumour has it, Patton had asked to be put up for transfer. Disappointed over in Tenerife being left out of first team training to train with the reserves and disappointment over TS public criticism of him.

Bad results and poor recruitment is one thing... But decimating the confidence and morale of the younger players, to the point of handing in transfer requests is horrific.

he appears to be destroying everything the club has been trying to build for the last 10 years.

From a source VERY CLOSE to Andre dropped to reserves for questioning Smith over treatment of Patton and the immunity of some of the other players.Seems Smiths ego is greater than his desire to pick the best team!