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| Apart from the obvious of scoring tries what do we need to do to beat Hull as I for 1 have been very impressed with them this season esp their big pack of forwards who could steamroll us if we're not on the ball?Thoughts
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| agreed , about their forwards , Scott Taylor has been immense , really rate Danny Houghton at hooker too. Think wire have the better half backs , but will they get enough time?.
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| Lock them out the stadium.
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| Let them win in exchange for a promise to let us win if we meet in the play offs (either semi or final).
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Let them win in exchange for a promise to let us win if we meet in the play offs (either semi or final).'" So DM take it you'd rather win the GF than the CC?Wembley for me any day of the week.
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| If we win the CC it will be a successful season but I'm sorry the only prize I'm interested in is the GF
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| Stop Danny Houghton from dictating play from dummy half and we have a better than even chance of gaining the spoils. Let him dictate play and it could be a long afternoon.
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"Stop Danny Houghton from dictating play from dummy half and we have a better than even chance of gaining the spoils. Let him dictate play and it could be a long afternoon.'"
To do that you have to stop the forwards and the outside backs playing the ball fast and he plays on the back of that, Wigan tried it with help from Thaler and it nearly worked. I think has the makings of great game, two good sides with very good players, some great battles, I think the backs about on par, we edge the forwards,and you the
I and most Hull fans would rather win the cup than the GF, mainly down to history.
Hopefully a good day out for everyone.
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| We have to keep Gidley & Sandow fit for the final. Gidley was not fully fit on Saturday.
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| Not saying he deserves a spot as he as not had a game really but would Dodds be fit for the final, and would we play him.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"We have to keep Gidley & Sandow fit for the final. Gidley was not fully fit on Saturday.'"
Wouldn't be too surprised if Gidley has a week off against Castleford.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Not saying he deserves a spot as he as not had a game really but would Dodds be fit for the final, and would we play him.'"
I was thinking about the possible team we'll put out at Wembley and I can't see it differing much from yesterday's 17. Perhaps a swap between Penny or Lineham and Toby King is the only change I can foresee, barring injuries of course. Don't think Dodds will be fit in time.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
I and most Hull fans would rather win the cup than the GF, mainly down to history.'"
That's because you've somehow never won at Wembley and want to put that right. Completely understandable. Any Wires fan who says they would rather win a trophy that we've already won three times in recent memory, and will have to win four games - only one of which will be against another top four SL team - to win, than win the trophy that you earn the right to contest over a 30 game season followed by two high intensity games against other top four sides to secure a title the club hasn't had for over six decades is either lying or just really weird.
I said in 2012 that us and Leeds won the wrong finals (remember their Golden Generation had won five Grand Finals before that but not won the Challenge Cup) and the scenario is true now. If us and Hull end up contesting both finals (I realise Wigan, Saints and possibly Catalans will have a lot to say about that), and win one each as us and Leeds did four years ago, then Hull winning at Wembley and us winning at Old Trafford would be the right way for all concerned.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"That's because you've somehow never won at Wembley and want to put that right. Completely understandable. Any Wires fan who says they would rather win a trophy that we've already won three times in recent memory, and will have to win four games - only one of which will be against another top four SL team - to win, than win the trophy that you earn the right to contest over a 30 game season followed by two high intensity games against other top four sides to secure a title the club hasn't had for over six decades is either lying or just really weird.
I said in 2012 that us and Leeds won the wrong finals (remember their Golden Generation had won five Grand Finals before that but not won the Challenge Cup) and the scenario is true now. If us and Hull end up contesting both finals (I realise Wigan, Saints and possibly Catalans will have a lot to say about that), and win one each as us and Leeds did four years ago, then Hull winning at Wembley and us winning at Old Trafford would be the right way for all concerned.'" Well I ain't lying so I must be weird then.Been OT twice + even if we'd have won 1 of them I wouldn't have changed my opinion.Doesn't even come close compared to Wembley but hey ho that's just my opinion.
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| Hull will slow down your ruck speed and then batter you up the middle, leaving Sneyd to turn you around constantly and add to your fatigue. Your PTB speed was the key to your win yesterday.
And Wakefields paper-defence, o'course. See you at Wembley!
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"That's because you've somehow never won at Wembley and want to put that right. Completely understandable. Any Wires fan who says they would rather win a trophy that we've already won three times in recent memory, and will have to win four games - only one of which will be against another top four SL team - to win, than win the trophy that you earn the right to contest over a 30 game season followed by two high intensity games against other top four sides to secure a title the club hasn't had for over six decades is either lying or just really weird.
I said in 2012 that us and Leeds won the wrong finals (remember their Golden Generation had won five Grand Finals before that but not won the Challenge Cup) and the scenario is true now. If us and Hull end up contesting both finals (I realise Wigan, Saints and possibly Catalans will have a lot to say about that), and win one each as us and Leeds did four years ago, then Hull winning at Wembley and us winning at Old Trafford would be the right way for all concerned.'"
you would be hard pushed to find many Hull fans in disagreement with this, that's it then sorted you let us win at Wembley we will let you win at old Trafford simple just get Smithy to ring Radders lol
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"Stop Danny Houghton from dictating play from dummy half and we have a better than even chance of gaining the spoils. Let him dictate play and it could be a long afternoon.'"
go on then try it
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| Quote ="Razor"go on then try it'"
Urgh - An example as to why I fear this final wont be as fun or good natured as previous finals! Urchins.
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| Are we talking about the same Hull team that have lost on six occasions this season, including twice against Leeds and another against Huddersfield, or is this some group of unbeatable super humans also going by the name of Hull FC?
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| Quote ="jj86"Urgh - An example as to why I fear this final wont be as fun or good natured as previous finals! Urchins.'"
dont recall any bother from fc fans at wembley or cardiff from the last 3 cc finals we have been at!
maybe its just you!
i expect it to be a typical cc final day (hopefully without the rain), fans mingling having a few expensive watered down bevvies, swapping stories, rumored signings, (which will be way off the mark btw) from fans of each club thats in and around wembley
hope all wire fans and fc have a great day and hopefully we will get that monkey off our back
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| Quote ="jj86"Urgh - An example as to why I fear this final wont be as fun or good natured as previous finals! Urchins.'"
What did he say wrong, only challenged you to stop Houghton, it's not as if he just asked you for a fight, very strange reaction.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Are we talking about the same Hull team that have lost on six occasions this season, including twice against Leeds and another against Huddersfield, or is this some group of unbeatable super humans also going by the name of Hull FC?'"
yep the same hull that took 4 points off wire
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yep the same hull that took 4 points off wire
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And even if you took another 2 in the super eights they would still mean absolutely nothing in the cup final, or at Old Trafford IF we were to get there (unless those six points meant we'd already met in the playoffs).
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| Quote ="Thelonius"And even if you took another 2 in the super eights they would still mean absolutely nothing in the cup final, or at Old Trafford IF we were to get there (unless those six points meant we'd already met in the playoffs).'"
rather pointless comments then about us losing to leeds, huddersfield etc! atleast we scored against hudds lol
what it does tell us when we play you, is that we can beat you!
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Are we talking about the same Hull team that have lost on six occasions this season, including twice against Leeds and another against Huddersfield, or is this some group of unbeatable super humans also going by the name of Hull FC?'"
Absolutely right. Get the tactics right and I don't see a problem.
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