What does everybody want to see as the 17 for next season?

Mine is

Russell
Lineham
Ratchford
Atkins
Penny
Gidley
Sandow
Hill
Clark
Sims
Hughes
Currie
Westerman

Westwood
Dodds
Dwyer
Philbin

Ben Evans and Laithwaite may make it on the bench depending on how they have recovered from injury. Harrison would have replaced Philbin if fit.
Rhys Evans/Ormsby will play plenty of games as will George King. Expect to see Jack Johnson and Wilde play too.

Can't see it being miles of the team you have put here tbh. I hope to see some more game time for j Johnson and Wilde as they are exciting prospects and hope that Sandow benefits from the arrival past season and kicks on from game 1.

I think that's more or less what everyone thought it was going to be (I'd have Ben Evans in over Philbin) but the squad numbers have put a bit of doubt in my mind.

Ratch and dodds likely to miss out on start of next season, due to operations. Again league express this morning

Brilliant.

Pretty much what I would go with except I would give Jack Johnson the full back spot, he was outstanding in those last few games. Took to Super League like a duck to water and I think we should be a team that rewards that.
Russell spent a large part of the season injured and should have to earn his place back.

Don't forget Ryan Bailey

Do we know what Bailey's squad number is ? Just for my shirt you understand .

5hit

33 but after he read 22 pages dedicated to him he has asked for it changing to 666

I don't know what all the fuss is about over Bailey when we all know he will get a standing ovation from half the crowd at the HJ.

My 17 for next season would be

Johnson
Penny
Atkins
Ratchford (Evans as ratchford is supposedly out injured)
Lineham
Gidley
Sandow
Hill
Clark
Sims
Currie
Westwood
Westerman

Dwyer
Bailey
Dodds (cox as dodds is out injured)
Hughes

Ratchford
Lineham
Evans/King
Atkins
Russell
Gidley
Sandow
Hill
Clarke
Simms
Hughes
Currie
Westerman

Dodds
Evans
Westwood
Dwyer

When all fit including Ben H

Gidley
Russell
Rhys Evans
Atkins
Lineham
Ratchford
Sandow
Hill
Clark
Sims
Hughes
Currie
Westerman

Westwood
Dodds
Dwyer
Bailey

I would go for Bailey above Ben H

Sandow is the key to our season.

Agree about Sandow as I cant wait to see him next year after this year's cameo and a more settled start. Other hope for me is 'your' back row clicking as there's potentially some years ahead for this group and Westwood being looked after so that he can still add plenty when involved and perhaps be involved a year or two longer at top level.

Gidley
Russell Lineham
Atkins Evans
Sandow Ratchford

Westerman
Currie Hughes
Hill Dodds
Clark

or

Russell
Lineham Penny
Atkins Ratchford
Sandow Gidley

Westerman
Currie Hughes
Hill Dodds
Clark

I think it's all about Gidley next year. If he can get the team playing together following his direction from, probably full back, we will see a different team to last.

Agreed - I want him to replicate some of the 'Hodgson effect' from that position although Brett also had Briers at 6 which made it easier. Not as fussed about debating whole team set up but concentrating on pivot positions I would like to see the following:

1 - Gidley
6 - Ratchford
7 - Sandow
9 - Clark
13 - Westerman

I think the rest of the team, in whichever combination, is less important if that spine gels and plays to full capability.

Johnson/Russell
Lineham Evans/Ratchford Atkins Penny/Russell
Gidley Sandow
Hill Clark Sims
Currie Hughes
Westerman

Dodds
Bailey
Westwood
Dwyer

From the look of things I think Smith will go with Gidley and Sandow as it is crucial he gets a settled pair of halves, leaving the wings where they are all the rest are interchangeable without much disruption, It wouldn't surprise me to see Westwood play fewer games this coming season.

Gidley has to be in the halves for me, I don't feel like Ratch/Sandow is a great fit. I see Gidley as the sort of player who will bring us consistency and take us around the park every game while Sandow is a match winner who will come up with the big plays when we need them. I'm really looking forward to seeing them together and think it will lessen some of our shortcomings in the front row and backs.

So you got Sandow at prop Hill as hooker and starting with 14 players,that may give us a chance at winning something next season

Well spotted Pal.
Ive corrected my error

Can't decide which is more absurd, Sandow at prop or Kevin Penny at scrum half

Have you? You now have Lineham at centre and Atkins on the wing... Though to be fair he'd get away with his inability to pass the ball if that were the case

So who are injured and won't be ready for the first game?
Ben H, Ratch and Dodds ?

In which case I think our line up against Leeds will be

Russell
Penny
Atkins
Evans
Lineham
Gidley
Sandow
Hill
Clark
Sims
Currie
Hughes
Westerman

Dwyer
G King
Westwood
Bailey (although this depends on how fit he gets and whether TS thinks he'd need to him to make a statement for his future especially against his old club - but Laithwaite and Ben Evans are in with a shout).