I know some decisions need the video ref, but I think a lot of the refs are bottling it and going upstairs

They are scared of the TV "experts" slated them if they get it wrong even in real time.

Thing is, som of them tonight, on another night, you can guarantee they'd be given.

In fact for another teaM, they'd be given,

What does Child do on a Sunday? Just run around guessing? May as well not take any results he's had without a video ref seriously because he hasn't got a clue!

in fairness to child, on field he awarded our first "non try"...it is the ten replays and the fact you know two dick heads in a box are arguing on whether they can overrule a try or not, that gets me annoyed.

as Wayne Bennett said the Video ref should just get 3 views at it, if they can't decide by then, then you go with the on field refs decision.

That's a great shout!

The people in the video booth should just move the pictures on the big screen on the refs instructions. Let the on-field ref have the final say.

Similar to what the legendary Sir Ian Botham says in cricket.

We need to have a look at the role of the VR. It's becoming a farce. They OVER ANALYSE everything.
Unless it's blatantly obvious it's not a try, GIVE IT

It spoilt what semblance there was of a professional rugby match tonight. By the end the video ref was clearly embarrassed and gave decisions on one or two viewings.

Like Hicks last week, Childs isn't good enough, confident enough or man enough to give a game like that to. His general decision making was horrendous, there were some horrendous play the balls tonight and players were making more metres after the tackle or held call that they did before it.

totally agree..what annoned me was the clark try it was clearly knocked out by a cheats hand(sorry saints hand) yet the try was not given and the cheats got the scrum..a similar incident at our ground saw a try awarded for golden boy...

this should be a new law

If you wear a shirt with a red vee you get the decisions - that is all. !!

Really? Which one would you have given the other way? They were all very blatant and obvious decisions I thought. I didn't see any the video ref got wrong. At least half of them should never have gone upstairs in the first place, he was going up just in case, rather than because he was genuinely unsure.

golden boys try at our place was no different to clarks...nowt wrong with 2 of pennys trys and the other was debatable..whilst we are on about dodgy decisions re-wind to some of yours this season widnes in cup knock on try given hudds at home another knock on try given....try at cas given despite player being off side from a kick..all on tv viewed by vid ref....if only we had them decisions tonight we`d have put 60 on you shower

out of interest, which tries penny had disallowed were "nowt wrong with em" and which was debatable?
although 1 or 2 could be seen as harsh i thought they were all right decisions

Lol. Clark clearly knocked on. Amor tackled the arms which forced the ball out. The Roby one at the HJ was because the Wire defender used his knee deliberately to attack the ball. That time the video ref spent the time deciding whether it was try, penalty try or 8 point try, they mentioned it on Sky at the time. Both of Penny's were very clear, first he completely lost onto the knee of the Saints defender and the second was a clear push in the back to move the Saints defender out of the way.

No complaints on you calling us a shower. We're very poor. Sad indictment on your season however when you're so far behind such a poor side. If you hadn't lost 3 to us, you might have had a chance of the top 4.

I know they can't go to the video ref for it but the pass from Walsh just before the first Saints try looked pretty obviously forward to me - and my 11 year old son as we both called "forward" at exactly the same time

It probably was. Ratchford's to Johnson looked equally suspicious live, but okay on the replay.

Wire have had their fair share of dubious ones go for them this season. 2 against the rhinos at home could have gone the other way.

The game is fudged with the standard of officiating.

There is no scope for physical interaction in this game.

The second Atkins on Makinson interference wasn't correct. Makinson was never getting that ball in a million years and Atkins slightly touched his arm, literally the slightest of touches.

Plus Amor punched the ball out...play on...then Clark grounded it...TRY! There was no knock-on by Clark anywhere in that move.

Bit of a random one, but I've often thought why don't they give the tennis method a go...

Each team has say 3 VR calls per half, if the defending team feels there is a need for VR the on field captain requests it to go upstairs. The 3 calls don't carry over if you don't use in first half. The on field ref then has to make the call more often than not

The thing with video refs this year more than ever is the system they use now. I've got a try just check etc etc, if he's got a try then he thinks they have scored that should be it end of,wether he is right or wrong that should be it. Someone as already said they are only human so will make mistakes. For me Id rather they got shut of them it's slowing the game down to much.

Without the subjectiveness and/or bias of the team supported, what would have happened if that game wasn't on TV?

James Child is a shocking referee, he has no confidence in making a decision and the constant drivel that Cummins comes out with to justify his decisions is bordering on delusional. A guy who is a referee at amateur level and was on the panel for Super League games explained a few things to me regarding the process' used and trained into these guys that is absolutely incredible.

You know its bad when the commentators are completely split about the decisions we rely on their comments as ex-players and referee's to enlighten the decisions made but its now a farce.