Surprised nobody's brought this up. Skimming through the game this morning it seems to me pretty obvious that it was contact with James Greens shoulder that broke GenOs jaw. Seemed to me to be accidental contact, but the way the game has been going is it something that the judiciary could/should look at? (49 minutes in if you can't face watching the full game again).

Perhaps if there was a chance that we would be playing Rovers again this season TS would have made a meal of it in the hope of having him banned for our next meeting!

Didn't he do hohaia or someone from saints, same thing ?

It may have been Burns not sure.

Quote ="ricominciare"It may have been Burns not sure.'" It was Burns - the only difference between the two for me was that in the burns incident he was first (and only) man in the tackle. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?6100

Quote ="ricominciare"It may have been Burns not sure.'" It was Burns - the only difference between the two for me was that in the burns incident he was first (and only) man in the tackle. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?6100

Accident, part of the game, plus he was slipping slightly, you can't really start punishing players ever time someone gets injured, especially when making a legit tackle.hope he gets better soon, but just unfortunate.

Dipping in the tackle nothing in it like Westwood on Gale last week......

It was accidental and I don't want him to be punished for it. I'm getting sick to death of fans (not a pop at the OP, a pop at the ever growing soft RL community in general) coaches and the RFL demanding and going though with banning players when they shouldn't be. The game is soft enough as it is without even more sanitisation through fear of getting banned for nothing.

Which is kind of why I asked the question. As I said, I also believe it was accidental contact and as a tough collision sport there are always going to be injuries, some serious, that are simple accidents. But there have been other collisions in other games resulting in less damage to the recipient, that look to be equally accidental yet the RFL have considered the act worthy of punishment. I suppose the word that gets brought up most when discussions come up regarding the judiciary is 'consistency'.

The way he is getting shafted on here, I'm surprised no-one has posted that this injury is a blessing in disguise and it gives Penny a chance.

I don't get the Ormsby "getting shafted on here" vibe at all WFIII.

It wasn't one of his better games that's for sure and he shouldn't really have had his pocket pinched for Sio's try but shafted I just don't see it at all.

If Gene's bad luck is Kevin's good luck then so be it, we could always try Rhys in there risking another 6 month lay off

where does he get shafted on here?

Rovers played that kick so well, there are many far better and more experienced wingers than Ormsby that would have been made to look equally stupid.

He was let down by his team mates, particularly Atkins.

Hull KR player charged with Grade C offence for that tackle on Ormsby.

Told you it was a bad un. i saw it, and i wasn't on the pitch and aint employed to be looking for this sort of thing.

yea... nothing like it... One broke a players jaw, one didn't cause any injury.

Still think it was accidental, though I can see how it has been deemed as reckless. I suppose the phrase 'duty of care' comes into it too. Having been charged, with the nature of the injury caused and with 'previous' earlier in the season I wouldn't be surprised at the full 3 games. At least this would leave him available for the final.

Because it was a shoulfder charge, it wasn't accidental, you don't accidentally shoulder charge someone.

Was it an actual shoulder charge or in the event of making a tackle the shoulder caught the face of the opponent? There were several shoulder charges going in at both Semi finals and all went unpunished at the time.

The duty of care thing should be looked at with the challenge as the tackle appeared to be one like a type of bear hug that was ill timed hence the injury.

I suppose the bottom line is that if you want to go in for the big hit and end up 'big hitting' the opponents head/face, whether by accident, recklessly or intentionally then you have to expect to be looked at after the event. More so if the hit is with the shoulder, and more again if the hit results in serious injury to your opponent.

Agreed

Gene Ormsby had an operation on his jaw on Saturday night, with both sides of the jaw needing a plate inserted. His estimated time on the sidelines is eight weeks, but could be back sooner. Wolves are not writing him off for the year at this stage

Maybe so but my post was more in response to WFIII on the Ormsby has been shafted proposition I didn't think he had

I'm surprised. I thought it was a front on tackle and the shoulder just happened to hit Gene, unluckily in the jaw. It wasn't a shoulder lead charge.