..for a semi we did not perform yet again...well done to kr who played well..another huge let down

Agreed

Losing Harrison so early and then Gene so early in the 2nd half (given how he brings relief to the forwards) didn't help, but the writing was on the wall long before Gene left the field.

KR were 100x faster than us in the ruck and the amount of meters they made/we didn't make was shocking. Add to that our goal line defense being poor and our typically sleep inducing attack (as validated by Sandow, who I swear was asleep in one of the BBC shots).

Cant argue with that,they turned up with more enthusisasm and fully deserve their place in the final,we never dealt with Kelly properly.

poor display all over..... we only have 2 forwards in Hill and Simms.... the rest are either kids or they're not good enough.

We have signed 3 backs for next season... lets hope we are also signing 3 forwards.. because we need them.

HKR much the better team today and deserved their victory.

Roll on next season, because this one has been a shocker.

OT is miles off on that showing.

OT is miles off on that showing.

I am still relatively relieved about Wire. One month ago we really were looking down the barrel of bottom four and playing crap ... so don't take this too badly and stop moaning. I'd rather be in Top 8 than at Wembley ... and I bet HKR would.

Thought Simms struggled today. In his first spell, 2 forward passes, a knock on and have away 2 penalties. He does a lot of trash talking and fist pumping but Hill carries him.

A trip to Wembley or an 8th place entry into the Super 8s with no chance of making OT........I reckon they would take the Wembley final over 8th place

It was shocking how easily Hull KR kept making 50 metres from within their own ten, it wasn't like they were playing great rugby. Just absolutely no line speed/effort on our behalf. Players just didn't want it enough, and they don't have the quality to half ass it for 60 mins.

whatare you on about

The effort is there for the majority of the team. Just a shame that the people we rely on to keep the momentum when Hill and Sims go off are absolutely nowhere near good enough. I'd suggest at least splitting Hill and Sims up to minimise the damage in future. At least one forward on the pitch then will have some umf about them.

I think it's time that Smith was moved on. It seems he's untouchable for a large section of your support. He's the one who keeps signing all of the players who you want to get rid of.

His policy of letting the players play what's on is a cop out for a poorly coached side. It's passing the buck and putting the onus squarely on the players when it seems there's a real lack of structure.

This team you have is HIS team. Even Kevin Penny and Rhys Evans were caught on camera looking bemused by him during the game.

I'm not sure some realise just how bad we were and how close we were to relegation. That's why I am not so concerned about today. HKR will have some real worries about staying in Super League. Being at Wembley is all very nice but it could prove a big distraction ... winning games prior and after playing at Wembley can be difficult. ... and thank you for your obvious deep thought on the subject.

He made some dud signings but he's also made some good ones. I am quite happy with Penny, Sims, Clark, Hill, etc. Then you have past signings like Waterhouse, Hodgson and the like.

Only Roy and England have been let downs really. Wheeler doesn't even get a mention tbh. He never plays. The god damn biscuit.

Except today. I think(?)... Can anyone confirm?

KR deserved to win and they played the game in good style, strange selection with Wheeler could have had Penny at full back or outside Monaghan, Kelly steered their pack about the pitch his kicking was spot on especially the one for Sio.

I think Sandow probably looked at his mate Kelly run the show and thought this is easy I can do that ,no worries plus it's easier coming into a team that needs your talents so obviously

He also needs outside backs with pace and a pack with menace. God help him over the next 2 months.

At least with Sandow we will have a kicking game ,we've played most of season without one and got this far

Truly dreadful performance and got what they deserved against a team who bar one kick did nothing but the basics right unlike us.

Ill disciplined and a lack of respect for opposition and conditions to blame that's also why we're 6th in SL losing against average teams.

Never at the races. As my old school teacher used to say. Must do Better.

I do feel a little sorry for Hull KR though as I can't imagine that they'll trouble Leeds too much at Wembley

Hope they don't come a cropper in middle 8s ,they've got too much talent to go down but, wembley will surely preoccupy them