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Please put your disappointment behind you and come and support the Wolves Under 19s in their Grand Final tomorrow (Saturday) against Wigan. Kick off is 2.00pm at The Halliwell Jones Stadium.
warringtonwolves.com/u19s-grand-final
Your support will be greatly appreciated!!!
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Please put your disappointment behind you and come and support the Wolves Under 19s in their Grand Final tomorrow (Saturday) against Wigan. Kick off is 2.00pm at The Halliwell Jones Stadium.
warringtonwolves.com/u19s-grand-final
Your support will be greatly appreciated!!!
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| Anybody coming along to watch us? This is a great opportunity to finish the season on a positive note and the more Warrington fans there the better. Please come and great a great atmosphere, the lads have given their all this season.
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| 5 of us coming.
I'd imagine a few hundred will come from Wigan. We went to Leeds last year and there was a decent travelling support at that.
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| Not sure I can bring myself to watch rugby league today, but best of luck to the lads. Look forward to seeing some of you in the first team soon and the all the best to those leaving.
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| I will be there with the old man, should be an excellent game - and of course the last Wire match until (presumably) Boxing Day.
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| We will be there, expecting a big forward battle.
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| Anyone posting updates.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Anyone posting updates.'"
Its Warrington 4 Wigan 18 approaching half time. There is commentary on Wish.FM if anyone is interested.
[urlhttp://tunein.com/radio/Wish-FM-1024-s45540/[/url
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| Warrington 22 Wigan 24 with six or so minutes left. Yet another close one after last night!!
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| Finished 22-24. Sounded like a good fightback, unlucky lads.
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"Finished 22-24. Sounded like a good fightback, unlucky lads.'"
Wigan were hanging on desperately at the end by sounds of it. Maggie Philbin was MOM.
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| Quote ="Meefy"Wigan were hanging on desperately at the end by sounds of it. Maggie Philbin was MOM.'"
Not heard of Keith Chegwin for ages.....
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| Seemed dead and buried just after HT but great fightback, pack went well especially Philbin and Wilde. Bit disappointed with the composure at the end as they did have chances to snatch the result but great credit for the effort and spirit shown to be so close to winning after being twenty points adrift.
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| Yes, we just lost this one at the death. For those that didn't come - you missed a real treat, well, in the second half at least, when Wire really got stuck in and took the game to Wigan. And there was a big crowd to watch the game in the sun with over 1100 people. Most of the forwards played really well and Joe Philbin returned to form with some very strong tackling and good quality tries. Tom Walker also was immense and looked a bit like Chris Hill does for the senior team. For the first 30 minutes or so it was a very tame Wire that turned up and promptly conceded a substantial lead to the visitors. But then we saw a bit of passion as our senior players suddenly started to take on the Wigan forwards and even started to rough them up, in fact I was convinced it was going to end in a street fight. Although the side didn't reduce the points arrears much by the end of the first half, the match seemed to change at that point and the second half was a real contest, with Wigan just managing to hang on and take the win.
I have watched a lot of U9's this year and have come to a couple of conclusions. Firstly, Wire, Wigan, Saints and Leeds academies are well ahead of the rest of the league. That may sound like good news, unfortunately I think it detracts from the preparation of the youngsters for SL. There are too many games where the offence and defence can take it easy, where teams can play at low intensity, and making errors does not get sufficiently punished. Second, and a bit more controversial I am afraid, I am not convinced our U19's are being prepared in the right manner. We lack mongrel. We give far too much space to opposition forwards and backs, thus handing them the initiative and yardage. We don't force forwards backwards in the tackle very often - tackles invariably look like those that are practiced by the team during the warm up. In short, the team looks more like an U16 side where practice at accomplishing the correct moves, field position, and body positioning in tackles is still being perfected in preparation for the next level of football. If you compare Wigan to Warrington U19, you see a side that mirrors the senior team - they look far more professional - even down to the tricks to gain that extra bit of yardage in the tackle, and conning the ref that you are being held down. Yes Wigan have far more talent to choose from than we do, but to give ourselves a chance perhaps we need to have a seamless coaching regime from the first team down through the U19's. Having said all that, I know nothing about coaching, this is simply how I see it.
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| Crowd was well over 1100 ................ 1550
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| Winslade - it's posts like that that make me wish I was back in the heartland and able to watch more rugby. Great post.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Yes, we just lost this one at the death. For those that didn't come - you missed a real treat, well, in the second half at least, when Wire really got stuck in and took the game to Wigan. And there was a big crowd to watch the game in the sun with over 1100 people. Most of the forwards played really well and Joe Philbin returned to form with some very strong tackling and good quality tries. Tom Walker also was immense and looked a bit like Chris Hill does for the senior team. For the first 30 minutes or so it was a very tame Wire that turned up and promptly conceded a substantial lead to the visitors. But then we saw a bit of passion as our senior players suddenly started to take on the Wigan forwards and even started to rough them up, in fact I was convinced it was going to end in a street fight. Although the side didn't reduce the points arrears much by the end of the first half, the match seemed to change at that point and the second half was a real contest, with Wigan just managing to hang on and take the win.
I have watched a lot of U9's this year and have come to a couple of conclusions. Firstly, Wire, Wigan, Saints and Leeds academies are well ahead of the rest of the league. That may sound like good news, unfortunately I think it detracts from the preparation of the youngsters for SL. There are too many games where the offence and defence can take it easy, where teams can play at low intensity, and making errors does not get sufficiently punished. Second, and a bit more controversial I am afraid, I am not convinced our U19's are being prepared in the right manner. We lack mongrel. We give far too much space to opposition forwards and backs, thus handing them the initiative and yardage. We don't force forwards backwards in the tackle very often - tackles invariably look like those that are practiced by the team during the warm up. In short, the team looks more like an U16 side where practice at accomplishing the correct moves, field position, and body positioning in tackles is still being perfected in preparation for the next level of football. If you compare Wigan to Warrington U19, you see a side that mirrors the senior team - they look far more professional - even down to the tricks to gain that extra bit of yardage in the tackle, and conning the ref that you are being held down. Yes Wigan have far more talent to choose from than we do, but to give ourselves a chance perhaps we need to have a seamless coaching regime from the first team down through the U19's. Having said all that, I know nothing about coaching, this is simply how I see it.'"
We were saying the same thing at the game, the Wigan U19s played in a very similar style to the senior side but our U19s did not have the DNA of the first team. In fact we barely saw a single offload particularly from the forwards.
Terrific high quality game though, both sets of players should take great credit and good luck to any of them moving on to other clubs or to new opportunities.
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| Nice one Winslade.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Yes, we just lost this one at the death. For those that didn't come - you missed a real treat, well, in the second half at least, when Wire really got stuck in and took the game to Wigan. And there was a big crowd to watch the game in the sun with over 1100 people. Most of the forwards played really well and Joe Philbin returned to form with some very strong tackling and good quality tries. Tom Walker also was immense and looked a bit like Chris Hill does for the senior team. For the first 30 minutes or so it was a very tame Wire that turned up and promptly conceded a substantial lead to the visitors. But then we saw a bit of passion as our senior players suddenly started to take on the Wigan forwards and even started to rough them up, in fact I was convinced it was going to end in a street fight. Although the side didn't reduce the points arrears much by the end of the first half, the match seemed to change at that point and the second half was a real contest, with Wigan just managing to hang on and take the win.
I have watched a lot of U9's this year and have come to a couple of conclusions. Firstly, Wire, Wigan, Saints and Leeds academies are well ahead of the rest of the league. That may sound like good news, unfortunately I think it detracts from the preparation of the youngsters for SL. There are too many games where the offence and defence can take it easy, where teams can play at low intensity, and making errors does not get sufficiently punished. Second, and a bit more controversial I am afraid, I am not convinced our U19's are being prepared in the right manner. We lack mongrel. We give far too much space to opposition forwards and backs, thus handing them the initiative and yardage. We don't force forwards backwards in the tackle very often - tackles invariably look like those that are practiced by the team during the warm up. In short, the team looks more like an U16 side where practice at accomplishing the correct moves, field position, and body positioning in tackles is still being perfected in preparation for the next level of football. If you compare Wigan to Warrington U19, you see a side that mirrors the senior team - they look far more professional - even down to the tricks to gain that extra bit of yardage in the tackle, and conning the ref that you are being held down. Yes Wigan have far more talent to choose from than we do, but to give ourselves a chance perhaps we need to have a seamless coaching regime from the first team down through the U19's. Having said all that, I know nothing about coaching, =#FF0000this is simply how I see it.'"
You see it and say it like a true and honest Rugby League supporter, Well done
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| How did Toby King play ?
From the little I have seen of him he looks a classy centre and one to watch.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"I have watched a lot of U9's this year and have come to a couple of conclusions. Firstly, Wire, Wigan, Saints and Leeds academies are well ahead of the rest of the league. That may sound like good news, unfortunately I think it detracts from the preparation of the youngsters for SL. There are too many games where the offence and defence can take it easy, where teams can play at low intensity, and making errors does not get sufficiently punished. Second, and a bit more controversial I am afraid, I am not convinced our U19's are being prepared in the right manner. We lack mongrel. We give far too much space to opposition forwards and backs, thus handing them the initiative and yardage. We don't force forwards backwards in the tackle very often - tackles invariably look like those that are practiced by the team during the warm up. In short, the team looks more like an U16 side where practice at accomplishing the correct moves, field position, and body positioning in tackles is still being perfected in preparation for the next level of football. If you compare Wigan to Warrington U19, you see a side that mirrors the senior team - they look far more professional - even down to the tricks to gain that extra bit of yardage in the tackle, and conning the ref that you are being held down. Yes Wigan have far more talent to choose from than we do, but to give ourselves a chance perhaps we need to have a seamless coaching regime from the first team down through the U19's. Having said all that, I know nothing about coaching, this is simply how I see it.'"
Having said that, Warrington generally looked a lot bigger than Wigan. Is this down to age difference, different conditioning at this age, recruitment policy, or just luck? Either way I would suggest that your youth policy is about to reap its rewards.
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| Quote ="Finfin"Having said that, Warrington generally looked a lot bigger than Wigan. Is this down to age difference, different conditioning at this age, recruitment policy, or just luck? Either way I would suggest that your youth policy is about to reap its rewards.'"
If they looked bigger I would say it was just coincidental. There were 8 third years, four seconds and five first years in the 17 that played yesterday. Our biggest forward - Robert Holroyd, picked up a training ground injury I understand, and was replaced by Morgan Nicholas.
For those unfamiliar with U19's, Lewis Tierney who had a very good game on the wing for Wigan is the son of Jason Robinson, whilst on the bench for Warrington was Morgan Nicholas, the son of ex Wire player Mike Nicholas.
All the best to those players who will be leaving at the end of the season, particularly Ryan Maneely who has been picked for the Scotland 4 nations squad. They have been a real credit to the club and their families and been a great set of players.
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| It's because our academy only ever do weights and that's why all the best Warringtonian players leave and become superstars at other clubs.
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