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| Now this isn't a gripe at why we lost, that in essence had nothing really to do with the ref.
Something got seriously on my nerves tonight and we were equally as guilty and it frustrated me both ways.
3 men peeling off, sometimes 4, slower than disabled snail.
It wasn't policed in the slightest and he let both teams get away with it all night.
Late third and fourth men in and late shots on players (Myler/O'Brien/Laithwaite).
It's amateur.
Plus to the letter of the law Wood should have been shown a red (although that is a rule I'm not fond of and think it should always be a sin bin).
He missed several things, Hill knock on, the blatant penalty for us after Sarginson pulled Ratchford away from the tackle, thankfully the TJ saved him there.
A few knock ons, forward passes.
Dreadful tonight, even in the stuff we benefitted from, as a neutral you'd be seriously questioning that.
Ganson can you sort this out please, it was amateur tonight.
People are saying he had a good game tonight, he had a good game in so much as he didn't effect the score but personally I thought he was dreadful.
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| He was letting the game flow, letting things go that he should have probably pulled up, but as long as it's for both teams I will sort of let it slide, but then he goes and gives the first penalty of the match against us because Liam Farrell couldn't keep hold of the ball in the tackle, that riled me up. If you're going to let things go then at least get it right when you do call up.
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| Totally agree. Pies lying on early stages was dreadful but we rightly joined in the lying on party to make it a fair game and Bentham was more than happy. Not one penalty for lying on. It was painfully slow with Farrell on the field aided by Shaun 'Benson for Beds' O'Loughlan lying down at every opportunity.
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| Bentham is the worse ref in the league by far, he is clueless and just ruins games.
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| Unfortunatley he is not the worst , far from it i'm afraid
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| Thought he did ok personally.
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| Agreed - Bentham was dreadful tonight, missed countless calls for both sides.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Now this isn't a gripe at why we lost, that in essence had nothing really to do with the ref.
Something got seriously on my nerves tonight and we were equally as guilty and it frustrated me both ways.
3 men peeling off, sometimes 4, slower than disabled snail.
It wasn't policed in the slightest and he let both teams get away with it all night.
Late third and fourth men in and late shots on players (Myler/O'Brien/Laithwaite).
It's amateur.
Plus to the letter of the law Wood should have been shown a red (although that is a rule I'm not fond of and think it should always be a sin bin).
He missed several things, Hill knock on, the blatant penalty for us after Sarginson pulled Ratchford away from the tackle, thankfully the TJ saved him there.
A few knock ons, forward passes.
Dreadful tonight, even in the stuff we benefitted from, as a neutral you'd be seriously questioning that.
Ganson can you sort this out please, it was amateur tonight.
People are saying he had a good game tonight, he had a good game in so much as he didn't effect the score but personally I thought he was dreadful.'"
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| He delivered what I feared, predicted and expected - a criminally slow play the ball, no policing the markers and disregard to forward passes. Letting the game flow is fine, but when it means teams can slow the game up, encroach in the 10 and generally spoil then it detracts from the game somewhat. I'd much rather a ref penalise early, warn the captains and then expect the teams to learn.
Still, it was what I expected. What I didn't expect was that McColorum would indulge in a spate of foul play that exceeded even his low standards, would put Hock to shame and culminated in a cowardly and violent attack on an unsighted Laithwaite. Bentham bottled that one.
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| Absolutely dreadful for both sides. Why has this become the norm?
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| What did m mc do to laithwaite?
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| There is a lot wrong with refereeing in SL. But you always seem to notice it more when you lose.
The ref in the Saints v Wire game was just as bad last week, some of the decisions he made were absolutely comical and he had no control over the game at all and ended up being overruled several times by the touch judges and TV refs.
The one thing that is doing my head in the most at the moment is moving off the mark at the play the ball. There was a passage of play tonight where Chris Hill won the collision but was tackled and got up next to the tackler, moved past him and took another couple of steps and played the ball falling into the marker, playing the ball 2 or 3 metres from where he should have. It happens all the time these days, the tackled player moving to the side of past the tacklers to play the ball.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"What did m mc do to laithwaite?'"
Shoulder charge to the back after he'd passed the ball. Sly and late but the contact wasn't all that dramatic.
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| No Sad one, I was noticing this in the first half, I thought that was the reason Smith was nodding in bemusement (it could have been something completely unrelated) it was getting on my nerves and was vocalising it to my not very interested wife.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"What I didn't expect was that McColorum would indulge in a spate of foul play that exceeded even his low standards, would put Hock to shame and culminated in a cowardly and violent attack on an unsighted Laithwaite. Bentham bottled that one.'"
Really? Nothing that dirty little scrote does surprises me at all. Hands down, the dirtiest player in SL.
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| But Waney thinks the moonlight shines out of his
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| What got on my nerves, and has been for weeks is this Wigan scrum trick with the head and feed. They got the ball and as soon as the scrum packed down I called it, penalty. Boom, whistle goes. Why aren't they getting wise to this (opposition aswell as refs)?
The whole 'stick a man on the floor between the PtB' is getting ridiculous too as others have said.
And McIlorum would go looking for a fight in an empty house, the man is just scum.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"What got on my nerves, and has been for weeks is this Wigan scrum trick with the head and feed. They got the ball and as soon as the scrum packed down I called it, penalty. Boom, whistle goes. Why aren't they getting wise to this (opposition aswell as refs)?
The whole 'stick a man on the floor between the PtB' is getting ridiculous too as others have said.
And McIlorum would go looking for a fight in an empty house, the man is just scum.'"
We love Micky Mac but always hated Les Boyd.
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| McIlorum is a hateful little ***** who is inexplicably rated by some within the game.
Can't stand the way Wigan play the game as well, all started with Maguire and clearly Wane has the same coaching manual.
Funny how many players get knee and ankle injuries playing against them.....
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Shoulder charge to the back after he'd passed the ball. Sly and late but the contact wasn't all that dramatic.'"
Shoulder charge
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Shoulder charge
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What was it then?
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| Quote ="mark_m"What was it then?'"
It was a late hit/contact. There was no shoulder involved.
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| What backside put Ganson in charge of referees?
I wouldn't put him in charge of the school tuck shop.
Some one posted a video of wires widnes 1985 ...I defy anyone to say the game has moved on for the better.
Thirty years on our games core skill is slowing the play the ball. .....
Well the gamecan just Love off.... its absolutely garbage and a simpleton is in charge of it.
Ganson as a ref missed loads and people confuse that with letting the game go. Gypsies could have set up camp on the ten metre line last night and Bentham wouldn't have spotted them.
A close and exciting game but standards all round were poor.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"It was a late hit/contact. There was no shoulder involved.'"
So he made contact with what then? His face? His backside? Seriously lol
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Now this isn't a gripe at why we lost, that in essence had nothing really to do with the ref.
Something got seriously on my nerves tonight and we were equally as guilty and it frustrated me both ways.
3 men peeling off, sometimes 4, slower than disabled snail.
It wasn't policed in the slightest and he let both teams get away with it all night.
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It's amateur.
Plus to the letter of the law Wood should have been shown a red (although that is a rule I'm not fond of and think it should always be a sin bin).
He missed several things, Hill knock on, the blatant penalty for us after Sarginson pulled Ratchford away from the tackle, thankfully the TJ saved him there.
A few knock ons, forward passes.
Dreadful tonight, even in the stuff we benefitted from, as a neutral you'd be seriously questioning that.
Ganson can you sort this out please, it was amateur tonight.
People are saying he had a good game tonight, he had a good game in so much as he didn't effect the score but personally I thought he was dreadful.'"
Would agree with a lot of your fair comments, but as you say he did miss the Sarginson pull off, but having said that it was hardly on a par with the Wood incident in respect that at least wire did get his error put right on the Sarginson one.
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