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| Didn't see the match today, but seemed like disgraceful behaviour by the some of their fans.
How many matches behind closed doors would be a suitable punishment?
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| Quote ="FireWire"Didn't see the match today, but seemed like disgraceful behaviour by the some of their fans.
How many matches behind closed doors would be a suitable punishment?'"
None, so long as the Club sort the matter out once and for all. Matches behind closed doors would deprive the vast majority of decent fans of their game and would almost certainly cause severe financial damage to the Club. Those involved need absolutely hammering though.
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| Don't think they would have got on the pitch if the stewards that were in front of us at the langtree were at leigh today. They were scary, right knuckle-draggers.
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| Dock them points,and send them down next year,should not have bricked the cas team coach,or attacked the cas mascot,also the steward and police officer, should not have been attacked,but some one some where will say it was the wire stewards fault.i feel sorry for rugby league at the moment.
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| bizarrely on the Trust in widnes forum they actually bring up the Warrington Steward incident as if that in some way excuses todays behaviour .....
one cretin added "FFS it was hardly Heysel"
the common theme among the mouth breathers is "lets move on nowt to see here".
scum of the earth and then some
I hate widnes with an absolute passion relegation was made for them.....
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| Back in the day...70s and 80s it was the norm to run on the pitch after the game to get autographs off your heros and to pat them on the back as they left the field, occasionally, if the player proved to be exceptional on the day, lifted aloft upon the fans shoulders and carried to the dug out.
They were greats times, not like the pc brigade of today, not that I condone what the Widnes species have done, but I might be very forgiving had they had won.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Back in the day...70s and 80s it was the norm to run on the pitch after the game to get autographs off your heros and to pat them on the back as they left the field, occasionally, if the player proved to be exceptional on the day, lifted aloft upon the fans shoulders and carried to the dug out.
They were greats times, not like the pc brigade of today, not that I condone what the Widnes species have done, but I might be very forgiving had they had won.'"
Indeeed. As an impetuous 8 (I think) year old I scaled the Naughton Park wall to get John Bevan's autograph [iduring the match[/i - there was a break fo an injury so I spied my chance. Bev supplied the autograph, which got pride of place next tome "The Live Wires" pendant, and the WIdnes speccies applauded my heartwarming innocence.
They'd probably have bottled me off the pitch these days.
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| Seems we have one of our own posting on the cas site posing as a Widnes fan.Hope the idiots prosecuted.
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I've must be honest...I found it funny as.
I don't condone it like I said, but it is funny, especially when a kid slips on his arrrrse. When a kid slips the grips of one steward and runs smack bang into another as he does.
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I've must be honest...I found it funny as.
I don't condone it like I said, but it is funny, especially when a kid slips on his arrrrse. When a kid slips the grips of one steward and runs smack bang into another as he does.
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| The pride of the Widnes signing-on queue, this morning. That's if some of them can hold a pen. Most of them are still opening bananas with their feet, and de-lousing each other.
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| I would personally ban them from the cup next year, bricking coaches ans attacking stewards, police and even the mascot has no place in our game!!!
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| Quote ="FireWire"Didn't see the match today, but seemed like disgraceful behaviour by the some of their fans.
How many matches behind closed doors would be a suitable punishment?'"
So you didn't see what went on but you heard trouble involving scousers so you wanted to start a thread stirring things up knowing your main audience hates them.
And you have an avatar saying "don't buy the Sun".
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| Cannot believe people condoning this.
How much damage does it do our sport in the public eye and to commercial partners? It looked appalling on the BBC.
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| Absolute morons. Makes our game look a joke.
Its a good job Widnes rarely play in big games.
Seen people blaming alcohol but im sure Leeds
and Cas fans plus ourselves, would have drank
plenty yet enjoyed the game rather than causing trouble.
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| A few more videos around now;
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| It's inevitable that the powers that be will have to take action against these moronic bottom feeders. If they don't these idiots will believe they can behave like this after every game.
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| The idea of fining Widnes is absolutely abhorrent. This has nothing to do with the Rugby Club.
This is all down to personal responsibility. I hope the Police can actually charge these "people" with the offences they've committed
trespass
vandalism
assault
(I'm assuming) drunk and disorderly
but then again, I wont be holding my breath.
Before we get on our high horses, we've attracted the same kind of low-lives when we've reached semi finals, since I've started watching the game. Our tosspot element should have received appropriate judgement.
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| Got to say fair play to the Cas fans for not reacting. What an absolute shower of pr*cks. Can't say I'm surprised, time and time again there's a group of Widnes fans who think they're big men doing things like this. This time it's not even that group of young lads that are usually the ones causing bother, most of them look easily in their 40's and should know a lot better. The most small time club in rugby league by far, it's just as well they aren't going to Wembley.
I'd also say that the police reaction was very slow.
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| I fear Widnes will get a big fine as the RFL can not fine supporters individually, somebody has to pay for damage done to the ground and to the coaches attacked before the game and this will undoubtedly be the club which is wrong as these were idiots who idea of being a fan is getting drunk and taking your top of (dont get this and never will just makes them look like the fat d******** they are) and standing with arms outstretched goading the winning teams supporters!!!
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| Shame they didn't try and pick a fight with a Cas player, would have been funny seeing those little scrotes get smashed by proper men.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"Don't think they would have got on the pitch if the stewards that were in front of us at the langtree were at leigh today. They were scary, right knuckle-draggers.'"
A number of the stewards at Langtree were actually from Warrington.
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| Quote ="mikej"A number of the stewards at Langtree were actually from Warrington.'"
Not sure about the ones on the pitch, but definitely recognised a few that stood toward the back of West stand.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"The idea of fining Widnes is absolutely abhorrent. This has nothing to do with the Rugby Club.
This is all down to personal responsibility. I hope the Police can actually charge these "people" with the offences they've committed
trespass
vandalism
assault
(I'm assuming) drunk and disorderly
but then again, I wont be holding my breath.
Before we get on our high horses, we've attracted the same kind of low-lives when we've reached semi finals, since I've started watching the game. Our tosspot element should have received appropriate judgement.'"
Spot on lefty
If it's a crime, its for the police to sort out. Widnes RLFC aren't a law enforcement body.
Looking at those videos the perpetrators seem to be nearly all males, late teens or 20s. And I expect close to 100% of them were tanked up with alcohol.
I bet you could take a selection of this 'demographic' from every rugby league playing city/town in the UK and if they didn't have club shirts on you would not be able to tell who supported who.
Its the same demographic that was out in those August 2011 riots nicking trainers and smashing up shops. The problem is they think strength in numbers protects them and they aren't afraid of the police so they do what they like.
The solution is to amp up the security significantly: if you have a tough and vicious enough presence then yes you might get moaning about 'heavy handed stewarding' but you won't get this.
People say there aren't jobs for ex-squaddies when they leave the army, well I would love to hire a load of unemployed ex-squaddies as private security for sporting events, they would soon deal with these kind of fools.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Spot on lefty
If it's a crime, its for the police to sort out. Widnes RLFC aren't a law enforcement body.
Looking at those videos the perpetrators seem to be nearly all males, late teens or 20s. And I expect close to 100% of them were tanked up with alcohol.
I bet you could take a selection of this 'demographic' from every rugby league playing city/town in the UK and if they didn't have club shirts on you would not be able to tell who supported who.
Its the same demographic that was out in those August 2011 riots nicking trainers and smashing up shops. The problem is they think strength in numbers protects them and they aren't afraid of the police so they do what they like.
The solution is to amp up the security significantly: if you have a tough and vicious enough presence then yes you might get moaning about 'heavy handed stewarding' but you won't get this.
People say there aren't jobs for ex-squaddies when they leave the army, well I would love to hire a load of unemployed ex-squaddies as private security for sporting events, they would soon deal with these kind of fools.'"
Agree with both you and Lefty. The only problem we would have then is that some of the idiots would do exactly what they did last year at the HJ when we played Widnes, video the incident and then play half the video. We had a steward absolutely vilified on social media for his actions, when all he actually did was whack someone's hand/arm several times to stop that person hanging on to a crash barrier when they'd been arrested. It looked a lot worse than it was and was used as a smokescreen to mask over some appalling behaviour by the same group of fans.
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| The quality of the Tv cameras used by the BBC are powerful enough to identify 'ALL' the morons that invaded the pitch and caused the trouble,have the police demand the films and hound down these idiots.
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