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| Probably a bit early but out of our current 1st team who would you keep for next season and what position would you play him?
Here's mine.
1 Ratchford
2 Russell
3 Evans
4 Atkins
5 Joel
6 Bridge
7 (vacant)
8 Hill
9 Clarke
10 Simms
11 (vacant)
12 Westwood
13 Grix
14 Wood
15 Higham
16 Harrison
17 Laithwaite
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Asotasi
England
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Trent
Vacant....where we ought to looking to bring somebody as we don't really have anybody at a level to bring through at the quality required for next season.
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| Would disagree about England. He's improved massively since he came, and looks to be in the same mould as Chris Hill. However paul Wood has been a great servant to the club, but I feel this season should be his last for us.
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| Agreed Wood did look a stone over weight today and sluggish.
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| What about Ben Evans? He's the best out of the current crop. I'd agree with England, he's come on leaps and bounds and with a good pre-season behind him could have a big year. He gets the nod over Wood for me.
Elsewhere, well sorry Joel is too slow to be a winger after this year. If we retain him, move him infield to centre.
Currie gets my vote at 11. He needs to bulk up and have a good pre-season but he is still the business.
Personally, think we need a bit of the physician's knife and cut deep, and hard.
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| Time for Wood to go. He's become another Morley copy cat, i.e. playing on a season too long. Unfortunately, the game passed him by today.
and now, puts tin hat on, the size of Australia
WESTWOOD IS LOOKING TIRED, and is in danger of falling into the above bracket.
If we all face facts, Ben has been a shadow of his former Wire brilliance, this season. Again, as I've said on another thread, he was virtually non existent as a threat with ball in hand today, as were all the pack.
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| 1 R Evans
2 Russell
3 Joel
4 Atkins
5 Ormsby
6 Bridge
7 Ratchford
8 Hill
9 Clarke
10 Simms
11 Currie
12 Westwood
13 Grix
14 B Evans
15 Higham
16 Harrison
17 Laithwaite
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Asotasi
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Trent
Monas
Wood
in limbo:
England
okay with some of your help and a bit of a shifty we now have a 17 like this for next year.
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| Wood hasn't been good enough for Wire for about 5 years, let's all be honest, don't know why we're kicking a fuss up now. I am sentimental though so keep.
Russell has potential, but he's prone to brain explosions. He's Richie Mathers with power and pace.
Only positions I am glad to give right now are -
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| Grix remains very much part of the equation for next year, but I think he may well get pushed into a utility role off the bench. Same could be said of Westwood as a rotation prop.
When you consider the backrow talent available ...
Harrison, Currie, Laithwaite, B.Evans, Westwood I'd be going for a back three of Currie, Laithwaite & Harrison (I see B.Evans as prop and a damn fine one too).
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| Has the responsibility of captaincy had a negative effect on Bennie? For Moz it worked as it reigned him in a bit but the same seems to have happened to Bennie yet for him it hasn't worked how we'd like. Also is it he's just shattered after trying to carry half of the pack alongside Hill?
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| if your confident you've signed clark maybe you should spell his name correctly, its a bit disrespectful to spell it wrong
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| I'm well chuffed you have signed Simms. I can't believe the hype generated by you lot. Add another dud to your 17, he is very average. There will be plenty of pages of disappointment posted on this forum. As I posted previous you might as well have signed Kirke or Lovegrove, they will offer as much and be a fraction of the price.
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| Quote ="dude"if your confident you've signed clark maybe you should spell his name correctly, its a bit disrespectful to spell it wrong'"
Perhaps you could start a sentence with a capital letter, end it with a full stop and use a comma after the name Clark? Which also must start with a capital letter.
The use of the word "maybe" is out of context unless you were going to use it as a question, in which case you have not used a question mark following the word "correctly".
The use of the word "you're" is incorrect in the English language, it has a meaning of you are. Your use of the word is correct in American English.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps you could start a sentence with a capital letter, end it with a full stop and use a comma after the name Clark? Which also must start with a capital letter.
The use of the word "maybe" is out of context unless you were going to use it as a question, in which case you have not used a question mark following the word "correctly".
The use of the word "you're" is incorrect in the English language, it has a meaning of you are. Your use of the word is correct in American English.'"
FATALITY...........FLAWLESS VICTORY.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps you could start a sentence with a capital letter, end it with a full stop and use a comma after the name Clark? Which also must start with a capital letter.
The use of the word "maybe" is out of context unless you were going to use it as a question, in which case you have not used a question mark following the word "correctly".
The use of the word "you're" is incorrect in the English language, it has a meaning of you are. Your use of the word is correct in American English.'"
Not to mention the schoolboy point that "its" should be "it's", and he has used the adjective "wrong" where he really needs the adverb "wrongly".
The boy done good otherwise
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| Quote ="MarginMeter"Not to mention the schoolboy point that "its" should be "it's", and he has used the adjective "wrong" where he really needs the adverb "wrongly".
The boy done good otherwise'"
Excellent post.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I'm well chuffed you have signed Simms. I can't believe the hype generated by you lot. Add another dud to your 17, he is very average. There will be plenty of pages of disappointment posted on this forum. As I posted previous you might as well have signed Kirke or Lovegrove, they will offer as much and be a fraction of the price.'"
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| Personally I think woody isn't good enough anymore.I'd like to see the back of asotasi and myler. Don't know what everyone sees in rhys evans. I would move atkins on the wing and bring in at least one new halfback and a centre.
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| Wood has been out a while so you have to give him the botd
Who would I release?
Asotasi, Waterhouse( going anyway) G.Riley
We need a halfback and lots of forwards for me.
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| don't think Ratchford should play anyway except Full back or centre.
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| Yed, agree with your comment about Woody, still has something to offer in my view.
Asotasi, sad to report a complete loss of faith. With no obvious signs of improvement after over half a season the axe has to fall.
Russell is conundrum, looks lively but as said earlier or on on another thread, when was the last time he actually beat anybody when running thee ball out? Give him the benefit of the doubt as he is still young
Myler could still come good but he is a support player and should just back people up ala Shaun Edwards in his pomp. He has shown little appetite of ability to manage a game. Decision time about him
Ratch is supreme open field runner and perhaps fullback or loose (after a few pies) would suite. Definite keeper.
I have often marveled at Bennies levels of effort but being part of two man pack much of the season is taking its toll as it is with Hilly who has had a quiet couple of games. Definite keeper though for me.
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| It's a shame to hear criticism of Russell. He's young and will mature mentally and physically. These days how often do full backs break the line from a kick return, within seconds of gathering the ball, there are 4 players closing him down. Hodgson and Grose were the only recent wire players and they were freaks. (didn't Stef score one against Wigan?)
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| I would go with:
1 Ratchford
2 Russell
3 Evans
4 Atkins
5 Joel
6 Bridge
7 New Blood
8 Hill
9 Clarke (if all is true)
10 Simms
11 Lathwaite
12 Westwood
13 Currie
14 Grix
15 Higham
16 England
17 New Blood
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Myler - Can't cut it
Asotasi - No words for this one
Harrison - Seen the best of him
Wood - Good guy but too old now
Retire:
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I'm well chuffed you have signed Simms. I can't believe the hype generated by you lot. Add another dud to your 17, he is very average. There will be plenty of pages of disappointment posted on this forum. As I posted previous you might as well have signed Kirke or Lovegrove, they will offer as much and be a fraction of the price.'"
No he's not very average is he? he's replacing a test and origin player who HAS been very average though.
Simms Will not be a wrecking ball type prop forward, but he trundles up hard yards in the middle of the park something Waterhouse (ok he's playing out wide) and Asotasi don't do.
He's clearly got some Mongrel in him which we are desperate for. He works hard in defence, and he's the back slapping high fiving, encouraging team spirit kind of guy that we need.
And after the loss of Morley and Carvell we need a high profile experienced forward to help out our younger forwards sadly waterhouse has not been the type of guy for that and Westwood has gone off the boil having to do the work of two back rowers while Trent takes it easy. Simms coming in will help both Westwood and Chris Hill.
If that's Hype then fair do's, to me its just an honest assessment of the one coming in being better than the one going out.
But thanks for offering kirke and lovegrove anyway
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| Thank God this forum doesn't pick the squad......
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| Ratchford
Russell
Monaghan
Atkins
Evans
New signing
Bridge/myler
Hill
Clark
Sims
Westwood
Currie/grix
Grix/bridge
Harrison (as a prop)
Evans
Higham
Laithwaite
Asotasi and wood can go for me as can myler if no space for him
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