"They are playing with a lot of spirit and got some confidence last week. I know they were down on some troops and that's often when you pull together, and we needed to do that ourselves.

Probably that desperation wasn't there for us in the way that we needed, whereas it was for Bradford. It's amazing what you can do when you all pull together and play with a bit of urgency and we need to find a bit of that ourselves in the coming weeks."

Hardly Churchillian is it?

The Guardian article is basically the same point regurgitated in three different ways.

So we need to play with a bit more urgency in the next couple of weeks then?

I can see our error count increasing already.....

That's where we've fallen to. Being out enthused by Bradford isn't seem as a major issue.

See, that's why no-one on here will ever be a SL coach. There was me thinking the best remedy for our inability to defend our line and finish teams off is to slow things down a bit, chill, relax, take it as it comes, admire the seasonal weather, think of fluffly white lambs and stabilise our inner equilibrium.

Leeds have clearly got this scrambling defence malarky hopelessly wrong.

So the game plan is sink to the relegation zone and then desperately pull spirited performances out of our collective s? And to think I was worried...

What worries me, is I bumped into a Bradford loanee when I was away the other weekend in the pub and he said they had all but given up entirely.

It's like the good old days. Wires were always the patron saints of lost causes - if ever a team was in a slump, hopelessly out of form, decimated with injuries or just absolutely woeful we could always be relied upon to turn up, lower ourselves to their standards, give them a glimmer of hope then throw ourselves on the sacraficial altar.

"A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen." –Winston Churchill

"Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential." –Winston Churchill

"When you get a thing the way you want it, leave it alone." –Winston Churchill

Was it against Hudds/Sheffield where we magnanimously let them come back from a big deficit to win at Wilderspool? Then we all had a nice sit down after the game. Thems were the days.

Care to name any names?

Lady Astor "Mr Churchill, you're drunk!"
Winston Churchill "And you madam are ugly, but tomorrow I'll be sober"

It's very disturbing watching Warrington this season as they look like a rudderless ship and also a side who are totally devoid of leadership and guidance out on the field

Honest question here guys....
Has Tony Smith lost the squad and are they simply not playing for him or are you really this bad a side, and if so why?

Has he ever said after a loss we were cack?

When you're going through hell, keep going.


No.

Yes I recall that. I also recall getting beat away by Barrow (11-10 I think) with the likes of Les Boyd in our ranks. Even now I can see the look of abject joy on the faces of the Barrow fans as they literally danced with delight at the final whistle. I went home and wept because God had cursed me with this horrible affliction as opposed to something less socially embarassing and painful. Gonorrhoea, for example.

To be fare to Barrow, they did win the Lancashire Cup after beating us.
The last 2nd div team to win it I think.

"The art of progress is to preserve order amid change and to preserve change amid order."
Alfred North Whitehead

"Order amid change" as opposed to "change without order" which appears to have been our management approach of the last two years. Yeah I know, I'm a stuck record, Briers retiring out of the blue blah blah f***ing blah

We had Langer in our ranks too at that time.... And I think Sheffield did at least win the Challenge Cup that year. We couldn't buy a win, then we allowed Langer to go over to Aus and help out Queensland to win the State of Origin and against all odds, we actually won! Against a good Halifax side I think??

I think Sheffield winning the Challenge Cup was 1998 and this was a few years after (2000 or 2001 I think). This was after Sheffield and Huddersfield were in dire straits, then they had somewhat of a merger and became Huddersfield/Sheffield and were still in dire straits. We threw them a bone, even though we needed more bones ourselves. That was nice of us.

Morrisey: I'm afraid the days of Les Boyd were before my time; I was only 14 or 15 at the above mentioned game.

I can't believe we didn't win today. Our forwards and backs were winning the collision hands down and making easy yards up the field. Interception try for Bradford kept them in the game when it looked like we were going to score and stretch our lead. Two disallowed tries and bombed several chances in the second half.
I saw Tony Smith going over to congratulate their dugout at the final whistle with a rueful smile on his face. I thought he looked pleased for them. Classy in defeat.

He's referred to stuff that happened over 4 seperate seasons

There is a double?? In there FMC

Well getting plenty of practice in this season. Getting fed up of hearing the same thing after every shocking defeat.

We look leaderless on and off the pitch. Has smith lost the players? They certainly don't appear to be playing for him or even have a clue of a game plan.

Does anyone still trust smith to rebuild this time for next year as this season is a no hoperr? Based on recent recruitment, I dont.

"Oh no, no, no, no, no"

Churchill