The whole parade of penalties yesterday were a farce. It is perfectly natural for a defender to target ball contact but it now seems like any loose carry or attempt to promote the ball that results in lost possession now seems to favour the attacking side and they gain a penalty.


Ridiculous.

Yesterdays games was refereed to a different spec than a regular Super League game and the frustration was clear to see on both sets of players. The fans of both teams and the general rugby league fan watching would have been equally frustrated. At more than one point in the game players from both teams were getting the Ref to go to the screen for decisions.

LAUGH ?I nearly bought a round of drinks



BEST game ive seen in years , I was singing Old Faithful all last night .

Its just inconsistent. What should happen is like an amatuer ref used to do for our team. Any ball that came loose was classed as a loose carry. Then we had a scrum no arguments we should have kept hold of it. End of

My Biggest gripe came with the Chris bridge moving off the mark penalty. He had a Hull player at his feet! What was he supposed to do ? (and thats the only time im going to defend his shocking performance)

That was a joke penalty. And inconsistent.

if only he gave the knock on *before hulls 1st try* then who knows what would of happend . but still we move on

The ball did go back though, that was the right call.

Ball stealing appears to be a toss of a coin. Most tackles in RL look the same so when the ball comes out it appears the referees just don't have a clue and just go with the crowd/players. Some are blatantly clear and it's an easy call, but when there's four men in the tackle and the ball drops out, how dafuq are they supposed to call it?

I'm glad this topic has come up as I think it is becoming quite an issue. The NRL now have two referees; one marking out the defensive line and one watching the ruck. Warrington are guilty of doing this as much as any team and in the QF the likes of M Monas and Waterhouse forced some 'dropped balls' that were classed as 'loose carries' by the Huddersfield players. Hands get everywhere in a three man tackle and the referees usually judge a knock on.

I am surprised that no-one has caught on to the fact there has been a change of match ball supplier recently... www.rhinorugby.com/store/blog/14 ... lenge-cup/ Apparently the Rhino ball is more difficult to keep hold of, especially when wet (Mr Wilkin ) than the Steeden ball it replaced and there are calls to go back to the Steeden ball. Maybe that has something to do with the alleged 'ball steals' ?

I am surprised that no-one has caught on to the fact there has been a change of match ball supplier recently... www.rhinorugby.com/store/blog/14 ... lenge-cup/ Apparently the Rhino ball is more difficult to keep hold of, especially when wet (Mr Wilkin ) than the Steeden ball it replaced and there are calls to go back to the Steeden ball. Maybe that has something to do with the alleged 'ball steals' ?

I thought the best example was when Tickle tried to offload and got a penalty in his favour when he made a mess of it.
I also noticed that a lot of the time Silverwood had his back to the tackle as it was being completed. Instead of running backwards to the 10 metre point he tends to turn round and make his ground with his back to the tackle.

Pity Bentham hadn't reffed like that in the QF against Huddersfield, Taai clearly had the ball stripped in 3 men tackles on 3 occasions and each was given as a knock on!!

Warrington are the masters of it and lying on trying to turtle the tackled player and slow the game, Huddersfield weren't smart enough but Hull did a Warrington job on Warrington and out bullied you.

You can't really complain at that I'm afraid, Hull played well and on the day the best team won.

Did your Huddersfield fingers really type that without first engaging the brain? Lying on & slowing the play down are attributes of Huddersfield year on year.

I think Flyingprop means holding the tackled player up for a period and the dropping them to the floor once the ref shouts release, which is different to the Hudds way of throwing them to the floor and then piling on for a quick kip!

Personally i have said for years that if the ball hits the ground for any reason other than first bounce after a kick then its a knock on and thats that, it cuts out all the garbage and we all know where we are.

Silverwood upset both sets of players with his daft decisons and really made a show of himself and you can bet whoever has the pleasure of his reffing skills this week will be sick of the sound of his whistle.

Cant wait for the final now, i'm guessing that if Hull can replicate that performance of shear grit and determination they will give Wigan a real hard time

Quote ="wigginswarrior"I am surprised that no-one has caught on to the fact there has been a change of match ball supplier recently... www.rhinorugby.com/store/blog/14 ... lenge-cup/ Apparently the Rhino ball is more difficult to keep hold of, especially when wet (Mr Wilkin ) than the Steeden ball it replaced and there are calls to go back to the Steeden ball. Maybe that has something to do with the alleged 'ball steals' ?'" They still use Steeden in the NRL and the World Cup will see Steeden balls used too.

Quote ="wigginswarrior"I am surprised that no-one has caught on to the fact there has been a change of match ball supplier recently... www.rhinorugby.com/store/blog/14 ... lenge-cup/ Apparently the Rhino ball is more difficult to keep hold of, especially when wet (Mr Wilkin ) than the Steeden ball it replaced and there are calls to go back to the Steeden ball. Maybe that has something to do with the alleged 'ball steals' ?'" They still use Steeden in the NRL and the World Cup will see Steeden balls used too.

I remember the Green Puma balls, in fact had one up until about 2005 until a mates dog 'did for it'.

Only ever played with them at wigan, iirc

I was given mine through my club(Golborne Parkside), when they got a new set of match/training balls.

Stolen or loose carry, reefed or not, IMO it’s now getting to the stage, as with the shoulder charge, that it’s becoming a real aggravation in games.

I ssem to recall thaour game is all about carrying a ball?

Ball hits floor its a knock on.

If the ball is relaeased and kicked before hitting the floor then play on if its caught play on. Usual rules to apply around touch and over dead ball line etc.

How hard is that!!