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| So we beat them at their place this season and they beat us at ours.
What lessons hae we learned and how we going to apply it in the semi.
Personally i thought Holdsworth was the key, they kicked early in the count and kept us in our own half for a lot of the match.
Who'll be the key and who do we need to nullify?
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| we'll keep you guessing, as say so will you lol
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| Hull will target this competition now the way we did in 2009. They're better than we were then because they'll finish a lot higher than tenth, but nonetheless we knew if we scraped into the play offs we wouldn't do anything in them, and Hull know that with the best will in the world they aren't going to win the Grand Final.
The first FC team to win at Wembley will go down in legend there though, and they're capable of beating anyone in a one off, as we were four years ago. They've already proved that at our ground. The good thing is that defeat gives us something to learn from, and both teams only have two weeks to prepare for this game, whereas we had eight (I think) to prepare for taking on Wigan in the '09 semi. We undoubtedly took our eye off the ball in Super League at times during that period - a luxury that our opponents who were challenging for play off position couldn't afford - and none of us cared a jot once our Wembley trip was confirmed. Hull will be exactly the same now.
In short I think we'll win, but I haven't booked any trains to London or bought final tickets!
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| It will be close, as it should be in a CCSF. I like Hull. A proper RL club with a large and demanding following.
We can, and probably should, win, given our team, but I'll not begrudge Hull for a second if they do turn us over, and I'll probably still go to the final and back them if they did.
Either way in 2013, it's going to be a spectacle in the final again.
Looking forward to a packed stadium and a good game.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"It will be close, as it should be in a CCSF. I like Hull. A proper RL club with a large and demanding following.
We can, and probably should, win, given our team, but I'll not begrudge Hull for a second if they do turn us over, and I'll probably still go to the final and back them if they did.
Either way in 2013, it's going to be a spectacle in the final again.
Looking forward to a packed stadium and a good game.'"
Spot on and much as I want us to win, if we lose to a good team in a good, competitive game then that's fair enough.
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| What we need is to make sure we stay in front. We won't have to worry about them kicking on the third if we're winning. I think, right now on current form, we're the best team in SL and the game is just two weeks away. I have every confidence in our ability and our current form isn't too far off being at our best (not quite there this season yet for me, though).
However, I am not taking anything for granted. Even if we'd drawn London, anything can happen in a cup game. But Hull are much better than London.
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| Absolutely spot on again from Mr. Murphy. Hull, no matter what position they finish in, are not going to win the grand final. They are two wins away from one of the two proper trophies on offer and will be targetting it just like us in 09. If they do get past us i hope they win it and i also will be backing their opponents on the coupon in every game between then and the final.
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| Not overly pleased with a 6pm Sunday kick off. Realise someone had to get the Sunday slot but 6pm is naff. My boss will be getting sod all work out of me the next day if todays hangover was anything to go by haha
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| If we were to play Hull 10 times then we would beat them 7 times, they would beat us twice and we would draw one game.
Hull are a good team & have the ability & players to beat us & win the Cup.
That said if I had to bet on the game I would choose Wire all day long. Hull will bring a lot of fans to the game and the atmosphere will be great.
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| Had a look at the Hull board and they seem to be in a pretty bullish mood about playing us and ex Hull player Paul Cooke was on Talk Sport today and he strongly fanicied Hull.. I don't mind a bit of confidence from the opposition as i'm confident myself and looking forward to a good game.
However the 6pm Sunday kick off gets a huge thumbs down from me and i think the chance of a total sell out has now gone..
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| I don't why it shouldn't be a sell out. Huddersfield is only an hour and a half away at most. No excuse really
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"If we were to play Hull 10 times then we would beat them 7 times, they would beat us twice and we would draw one game.
Hull are a good team & have the ability & players to beat us & win the Cup.
That said if I had to bet on the game I would choose Wire all day long. Hull will bring a lot of fans to the game and the atmosphere will be great.'"
Fair comments. We certainly need to be at the top of our game to beat you. Warrington will rightly start as favourites but we will go into the game with confidence. The club has made no secret of that fact that the Cup was the priority this season.
I'm not keen on the late kick off but as you say the atmophere should be cracking.
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| First semi in my lifetime that I'll miss, gutted.
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| I miss a semi every morning. by the time I realise what happening it's gone. You get over it.
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| Quote ="moving on..."I miss a semi every morning. by the time I realise what happening it's gone. You get over it.'"
And here's me thinking you were quite young.
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Quote ="Fatbelly"If we were to play Hull 10 times then we would beat them 7 times, they would beat us twice and we would draw one game.
Hull are a good team & have the ability & players to beat us & win the Cup.
That said if I had to bet on the game I would choose Wire all day long. Hull will bring a lot of fans to the game and the atmosphere will be great.'"
Pretty good analysis there. Out of the last 10 games we've played Hull, we have indeed won 7, lost 2 and drawn 1.
www.rugbyleagueproject.org/match ... 0tLS0tLQ==
Interesting to see that when Shaun McRae was Hull coach, we played them 11 times, we won 2 and they won 9.
I think Hull could win this one. They are an improving side although not there yet and still have a few holes. I think if we get a decent lead on them, they will not come back from behind to beat us, we will be clinical and finish them off. But if we open the door to them and they have a lead at all in the second half they will drive themselves to Wembley.
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Hull are a good team & have the ability & players to beat us & win the Cup.
That said if I had to bet on the game I would choose Wire all day long. Hull will bring a lot of fans to the game and the atmosphere will be great.'"
Pretty good analysis there. Out of the last 10 games we've played Hull, we have indeed won 7, lost 2 and drawn 1.
www.rugbyleagueproject.org/match ... 0tLS0tLQ==
Interesting to see that when Shaun McRae was Hull coach, we played them 11 times, we won 2 and they won 9.
I think Hull could win this one. They are an improving side although not there yet and still have a few holes. I think if we get a decent lead on them, they will not come back from behind to beat us, we will be clinical and finish them off. But if we open the door to them and they have a lead at all in the second half they will drive themselves to Wembley.
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| Quote ="moving on..."I don't why it shouldn't be a sell out. Huddersfield is only an hour and a half away at most. No excuse really'"
Not a chance. Wigan v Leeds on a Saturday at the HJ didn't sell out in 2011 and this will come nowhere near. If nothing else, rightly or wrongly the cup novelty has worn off for a lot of fans here.
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| Is it because of a lack of RFL marketing, some of the fans might not know there's a cup semi on and who is playing so they won't buy tickets?
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Quote ="sally cinnamon"Pretty good analysis there. Out of the last 10 games we've played Hull, we have indeed won 7, lost 2 and drawn 1.
www.rugbyleagueproject.org/match ... 0tLS0tLQ==
Interesting to see that when Shaun McRae was Hull coach, we played them 11 times, we won 2 and they won 9.
I think Hull could win this one. They are an improving side although not there yet and still have a few holes. I think if we get a decent lead on them, they will not come back from behind to beat us, we will be clinical and finish them off. But if we open the door to them and they have a lead at all in the second half they will drive themselves to Wembley.'"
what do you class as a decent lead these days? 10 points?
seriously if we keep the scores close going into the last quarter we have a great chance
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Quote ="sally cinnamon"Pretty good analysis there. Out of the last 10 games we've played Hull, we have indeed won 7, lost 2 and drawn 1.
www.rugbyleagueproject.org/match ... 0tLS0tLQ==
Interesting to see that when Shaun McRae was Hull coach, we played them 11 times, we won 2 and they won 9.
I think Hull could win this one. They are an improving side although not there yet and still have a few holes. I think if we get a decent lead on them, they will not come back from behind to beat us, we will be clinical and finish them off. But if we open the door to them and they have a lead at all in the second half they will drive themselves to Wembley.'"
what do you class as a decent lead these days? 10 points?
seriously if we keep the scores close going into the last quarter we have a great chance
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| Since they beat us, Hull have been abysmal - you could argue they played well above their weight against us and, of course they are capable of doing it again but I don't think lightning will strike twice.
They were garbage v Catalans on Saturday, and only a woeful knock-on-a-thon display by the French, complete with another display of lazyitis by good old Leon kept them in the game and the cup.
Warrington, on the other hand were imperious on Sunday, and probably did the decent thing in clocking off 10 minutes early and saving a few blushes.
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| Honestly expect us to win. I was iffy going into the Quarter, then I thought Hudds desire would perhaps see them home, but for all the will in the world we still blew them off the park. I feel we could well do the same to Hull.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Since they beat us, Hull have been abysmal - you could argue they played well above their weight against us and, of course they are capable of doing it again but I don't think lightning will strike twice.
They were garbage v Catalans on Saturday, and only a woeful knock-on-a-thon display by the French, complete with another display of lazyitis by good old Leon kept them in the game and the cup.
Warrington, on the other hand were imperious on Sunday, and probably did the decent thing in clocking off 10 minutes early and saving a few blushes.'"
you need to watch the game again, the hull defence was excellent and catalan had only 1 chance in the second half despite a load of possession. that said we coughed up a lot of ball as did catalan, and there were issues with the humidity making the ball slippery. our attack was limited but we took most of our chances, a classic away performance really. one things for sure if we cough up a lot of ball against you and give you field position we will lose. holdsworth will be back for us and he'll make a difference to our overall play. my other worry is how our forwards will match up, we have been poor in this area recently but against catalan there were signs of improvement
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| Everyone knows that Warrington are the favourites in this game. However, we've already beaten you once this season and so won't count ourselves out of it just yet.
When we beat you earlier in the season it was due to some fantastically tough tacking and a great kicking game by Holdsworth which kept you pinned back. If we want to be in with a chance of winning then we again need to be on the top of our game. It's a one-off match so anything could happen.
Hopefully there aren't any serious injuries in this weekend's SL fixtures so that both teams are at as close to full strength as possible for the semi final.
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| Wouldn't be surprised to see an odd Warrington team this weekend to avoid possibility of injuries - no Atkins obviously, no Myler, I wouldn't be shocked if Hodgson, Ratchford, Joel, Waterhouse were all missing. Bring in Williams, Harrison (played for Swinton?), McCarthy, Laithwaite...
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Since they beat us, Hull have been abysmal - you could argue they played well above their weight against us and, of course they are capable of doing it again but I don't think lightning will strike twice.
They were garbage v Catalans on Saturday, and only a woeful knock-on-a-thon display by the French, complete with another display of lazyitis by good old Leon kept them in the game and the cup.
Warrington, on the other hand were imperious on Sunday, and probably did the decent thing in clocking off 10 minutes early and saving a few blushes.'"
Not quite true, we also beat Hull Kr and Leeds after you. Catalan was the turning point. Since then we've had 3 narrow losses. 9 points being the total difference in those three games. At one point this season we were on fire, playing with confidence and being expansive with the right edge of crooks and Lineham in sensational form. If you play like you did against the Giants and we play like we did against Leeds, its going to be an epic game. Whoever wins I fancy to lift the trophy, may the best team win.
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