Just got back from the pub after watching what I thought was a fairly mediocre Saints Leeds game.

Leeds won much more comfortably than the scoreline suggests and were pretty pedestrian themselves. At least they have the consolation that history confirms when it counts they tend to turn up. Saints, in comparison, look like a very, very average team and they have a lot to think about ahead of next Friday.

At the start of the season I questioned why so many people were predicting good things for Saints and Nathan Brown this year, and I'm still wondering. They already look like a team who don't know their best 17, have little gameplan, no kicking game and no spark. Injuries have hit them admittedly, but then they've hit us as well.

..... and yes, having endured every crushing moment of Saints dominance against us I'm loving every flaming second of it.

I just hope they go to Wilkin next week for the boot after the 3rd or 4th tackle (forwards not powerful enough to drive 5 times) he has to be the worst kicker in the game. It went balls up from them from the start.

Jordan Turner and Ade Garner defending that high kick against an injured Ryan Hall was highlight for me with Leuliai scoring from it. Joel Monaghan would have a field day with that defence.

I don't think I will ever be confident going into a game against them!

Average is probably too kind a word for us at the moment. A side devoid of team spirit, desire and leadership.

I don't remember ever seeing a more feeble Saints side than this one. But it says a lot about the quality of SL that we'd probably be in the top 2 sides in SL if we signed a quality half back.

Thread title is quite apt really. We have been average at home since we moved into LP. Different team away from LP, strangely.

they always seem to play good at the hj tho so im still not confident

I'm not sure you would saddened. Are your telling me that with a quality half back lafrachie (sp) would be able to keep hold of the ball and that you would have beaten Huddersfield, in your first game? You only just beat Widnes! On watching you twice this year you seem to have no end of set tactic. Wilkin should never be allowed to kick a ball ever again as he is too costly in his meters lost from them. Meli looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights of a car when he gets the ball. Gardner played strong as did Percival "the new hero of Landfill Park". Well until next week when you get your claws into him.

Saints have not won a trophy since they had Scully, KC and Long in their squad.

Not an unique situation, bizzarely.

Best pack in the league.

You put a little Northampton Saint maggot on the hook and fish him over, if that little tit bit didn't work we could always try sweetcorn, i hear it's perfect for a Chub

Don't tempt him.

Also, where were all the fans last night? Looks like they have built the ground a bit too big... Maybe they concentrated on getting the venue selected for 'big games' rather than looking at how many fans they would get week in week out.

Shame really, as knowsley road used to have a great atmosphere.... Going to be hard to generate an atmosphere in a ground that's half empty every week.

It wouldn't be surprised if the famous saints song of FOOOOORRRRWARD died away now as a result.

I thought the new Saints chant of 'Boooooooo' far more suitable.

I hope we wipe them off the park next week.

I think that new Saints chant lacks the power of their old one: 'Booooo'. New one is too long winded and desperate, old one was insistent and assured.

We're only on the 5th game they are far from washed up...I'm expecting a back lash next week, for some reason Saints really rip in when they play us..

Didn't they start off poor under Royce only to finish strong?

This. That aside, Jordan Turner has got to be the worst centre I've seen in SL in a long while. I'm amazed Hull, then Saints took him. Attack him in the air & on the ground and they won't be hard to unlock next Friday.

totally agree,hes well overated and his commentary stints on radio are totally laughable..his after match interview he said no one has hit there straps yet,(huddersfield)very short memory..as for next week it wont be easy as we all know but theres a few saints players we can target,ade gardener(nervous nerys)and wilkin and turner..cant wait till we hit our straps hope its next friday

Well we know what thread will have all the comments on if we lose to them.

It was only last September they beat us in the playoffs and there was a thread on here called 'accepting we'll never be a big club' or something...

never, ever, ever write saints off, unless we are 8 points in front with 10 seconds to go.

I'm expecting a backlash from HKR today after their appalling second half at Salford last Sunday and also a backlash from Saints next Friday who aren't as bad as their start to the season would suggest. They beat us at the HJ twice last season and have won both of their away games so far this season.

I'm expecting two very though games, especially with our injuries. They won't be walkover wins.

Even then I wouldn't be surprised to see an eight point try given against us.

only if agent silverwood is reffing in his saints kit