what i dont understand is why we dont give them a chance! we give them a run out in 2,3,4 games a season thats it, look at teams like wigan (hughes), leeds (keinhorst) and saints (josh jones) they give their youngsters a game and if they do well they stay in the squad, our players like currie dwyer and evans play well and their dropped the next week...how we meant to keep bringing players through if they play well and then get dropped

our U20's won the league so weve clearly got the talent coming through we just need to let them show it

I would like to see them played as well. Laithwaite would have been a good shout after his return from HKR and Ormsby would be interesting. Evans has had a long injury of course, whilst Currie has had a few games (and was then on the Academy tour) whilst Dwyer suffered because of the re-introduction of Monas.

What would you have done out of interest ?

Maybe this dual registration will work wonders for our young lads who can then comeback as SL ready players when we lose some or all of our Aussies when their contracts run out.

I understand currie has been away, but he made his first debut against widnes, played the full 80 had a brilliant game, dropped the next week? likewise dwyer, great debut against wakey, in the squad for wigan but didnt get in then as soon as higham was back from suspention he took his place off him...would loved to have seen players like laithwaite, ben evans, ormsby, and saltonstall have a game all great young players who given a game can become future stars...if a first teamers gets suspended or injured and come back and a youngsters has took their place they should have to fight for it back not just walk straight over them back into the squad

im a fan of the dual reg, but doing it to championship clubs yeah it gives them experience in playing at a slightly higher level but the jump from championship to super league is masive i'd much perfer they were loaned to other super league clubs like o'brian and laithwaite were

Which players would you drop in order to play them?

personally imo...i would drop McCarthy and play currie...i think he offers more not a fan of tyke...others one should come in when players are injured thats my point, dwyers a hooker so why when they rest one hooker do they play grix there...its stupid he wont come through if he isnt given the game time when players are rested

If it wasn't the play offs and so late in the day to be bringing youngsters in i can think of 2 players that needs a rest from the current 17 on their overall form this year.

Ah yes let's drop Tyrone McCarthy, our best player last night. Sorry, what was that you said about dropping young players after they've played well? Grix probably played hooker about twice this season.

These young players are great cover to have and add to the unparalled strength in depth we have. Their days in the spotlight will come, but today is not that day.

Haven't we played these lads in some games and then we've got beaten and the fans had a go at Tony Smith for disrespecting the fixture by playing youngsters?

The time will come for our youngsters
At the moment, we have better/more experienced players in those postions.
To "throw" these youngsters in at such a crucial time in the season, will (more than likely) be folly.

One bad game, does not a bad team, make.

Well Rhys Evans is now in the tier 1 category of 25, along with GOB, so we need to view these players as first team pool now. That's a bit tough on Evans because he has not played a lot of games, but if either underperform, they can be expected to be 'rested' I suspect.

Outside of this we have seen Currie and Dwyer. I think both have actually done very well. Currie is only just 18 and slotted in well in the second row, whist Dwyer has had a longer run due to Monas knee injury. Unless these players are tested at this level we will never know if they can make it. So TS is going to have to pick his games, ignore the criticism and get on with it. I think we already have 8 ? Contracts up at the end of the year and an 'ageing population' of players. If I were a betting man I might think that TS is deferring the problem of player replacement because he is likely to be gone himself at the end of 2013. He only really needs a grand final for his CV to finish it off.

He's already got 3 Grand Finals on his CV, 2 of which he's won.

No, I should have been clearer. I mean job done at Warrington. 3 cc's and a SL trophy would I think be bad news for us a fans as TS would want to move on and test himself elsewhere.

I remember someone on here saying that Rhys Evans was a once in a generation player. Can't remember who it was, but whenever I've seen him I've been very impressed. Obviously there are his injury problems, but if fit then he should be playing a lot more next year, we don't want to see his potential go to waste.

Ben Currie is another one who should be used a bit more sparingly because of his age and the position he plays, but ideally you would like to see him in the side more often than not, on the bench at least.

Who?

There may be another reason why we can not play some of our other youngsters;

The salary cap for the group of players outside the top 25 is £75k. If we have 3 players in this group, it would mean an average salary of 25k each. Ben Currie and Brad Dwyer have played SL and fall into this category. Its possible that we may not have enough salary 'headroom' to bring in another player.

I think that's a little harsh on the messiah although I see your POV. I think we are more or less ready for the players potentially off in the next 1-2 years.
Briers - Gaz OB to step up
Hodgo - Steve Ratchford
Morley - Chilly
Monas - Dwyer to step up

Then there's Trent, Westwood, Carvs, Higham & Woody who'll probably also be off in the next 2-3, so we've got a little more time to find their replacements if they don't get promoted from the youngsters.

Next few years could be a bumpy transitional period for us.

I didn't mean to sound harsh, simply to point out that TS is obviously ambitious, at the end of his contract, and may well consider there is nothing further to prove here. In addition, I am concerned though about potential player losses at the end of next season. You can also add Micky Higham to that list which means 4 first team players possibly going. That is a lot of change, and no senior hooker for Dwyer to understudy.

Worse case scenario; loss of coach and 4 experienced first team players. That would be tough.

Mike Cooper, i was expecting more from him this year now that he has a fair bit of experience under his belt, ive been disappointed with what ive seen of him this year. Paul Wood, sometimes he can be decent but he can also be frustrating as well especially with his ball handling.

Hill was a bit off the pace (unusually for him), Ratch didn't do much of note, Hodge went off although I would say it was between him and Tyke for MOM.

Congratulations on calling someone a moron for disagreeing with you btw.

That's the thing. Most of the time young players get into teams because a first team player in their position has got an injury. It's the same for most youngsters. But if nobody has an injury in that position or there is someone else higher up in the pecking order, the youngster wont get in.

With time and patience, if they're good enough, they'll cement their place in the side at some point.

Agree with this totally, only downside is the younger is always compared to he previous player in their position, for instance Gaz Obrian will always be compared to Briers, Ratchford to Hodgeson etc and woe be tide if they make an error whilst they are learning/gaining experience

Did you watch the match or have you just named those 3 players because they are usually mentioned for MOM. Hill wasn't at his best. Hodgson went off Injured and Ratchford didn't see much ball. McCarthy was the best of a bad bunch but ignoring that game he has been in great form for a number of months anyway.