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| While there are a few issues that could do with being ironed out in our wonderful game, I think the one that is causing the most controversy is the issue of forward passes - particularly the ones that are missed!
Maybe a more potentially cost effective solution would be to have a mobile overhead camera and use the wonderful geometrical power of modern technology to simply determine the angle of trajectory at the point the ball is thrown.
If the horizontal line is considered to be zero degrees and the pass is zero degrees or less then the pass must level or backwards.
This will also take into account the momentum rule and any angled runs made by the passing player... it also erradicates the need of knowing the position of the receiving player.
Simples really!!
I suppose the real issue would be the cost of installing overhead railings and cables at each ground - but once done it would be there to use whenever SKY rolled into town. That said, I would personally would like to have a video ref at every game (but again, cost and the number of required officials is likely to be problematic - in the short term at least).
But as a principal idea, I think this could be a realistic solution...
Do you agree, or can you think of any more feasible suggestions?
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| why bother, all players carry those GPS trackers in the back of their shirts now, get them on line live during the match.stick one in the ball! bobs your uncle!
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"No.'"
I presume this is to the suggestion and not that you can't think of a better idea?
GPS tracking did occur to me, but I can see this being costly to implement accurately. Could be a long term solution though...
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| Quote ="Ghost Rider"geometrical power of modern technology'"
What?
Quote ="Ghost Rider"the angle of trajectory at the point the ball is thrown.'"
We've had this on the Wigan forum, even if the trajectory of the ball is forward, that doesn't mean that the pass is forward.
Oh, and as a general idea, I think it's terrible.
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| Quote ="1905"What?
We've had this on the Wigan forum, even if the trajectory of the ball is forward, that doesn't mean that the pass is forward.
Oh, and as a general idea, I think it's terrible.'"
Couln't help laugh at the irony of you asking 'what' and having an avatar of Einstein!! Sorry...
To answer the 'what' question, basic angles really. If the angle from the player is level or backwards then this is a fair pass. The angle can easily be measured from an overhead camera view using the processing power of the modern computer...
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| What is geometrical power?
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| Using a computer to act as a protractor and calculate the angle of the pass - geometry.
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| Quote ="Ghost Rider"I presume this is to the suggestion and not that you can't think of a better idea?
GPS tracking did occur to me, but I can see this being costly to implement accurately. Could be a long term solution though...'"
Because people have been asking the same question for years. This latest argument came about because of yesterday and has been carried on by those Wigan fans who have conveniently forgotten that a similar pass won them the RL Cup last season. There isn't an answer to it.
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| Fair point about the forward pass against Wigan, and I did use that as the principal to start this post.
Even so, I have thought for quite a while now that too many are being missed - and appreciate officials are only human. Consequently, could we realistically use modern technology to assist them?
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| Quote ="Ghost Rider"could we realistically use modern technology to assist them?'"
No.
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| Please can you elaborate as I would like to know your reasoning? Is it the over-use of technology, or do you think there is an acceptable level of tolerance that should be allowable?
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| I think you're a wind up merchant. You speak the most articulate sloblocks I have ever read.
Are you Sally in disguise?
Edit: I've just read back all your posts, funny as F. Come on, 'fes up.
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| Quote ="1905"I think you're a wind up merchant. You speak the most articulate sloblocks I have ever read.
Are you Sally in disguise?
Edit: I've just read back all your posts, funny as F. Come on, 'fes up.'"
Sorry you feel that way - I am honest and genuine, as my previous posts will support. I ask genuine questions seeking genuine comments - and as we all have opinions I always respect replies, even yours!
So, my question remains...
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| Quote ="Ghost Rider"Sorry you feel that way - I am honest and genuine, as my previous posts will support. I ask genuine questions seeking genuine comments - and as we all have opinions I always respect replies, even yours!
So, my question remains...'"
Good effort, well done.
I sometimes post stuff pretending to be stupid.
But your consistency is admirable.
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| Ridiculous. The club should give out free copies of the law book, it might put a stop to some of the ludicrous things we have to endure every week.
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| Quote ="Ghost Rider"Using a computer to act as a protractor and calculate the angle of the pass - geometry.
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sorry, even i can't take you seriously now.. pack it in, please!
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| I have a cost effective way, we employ people to run up and down the line, in line of play, have one on either side for ease, we could call them the judges of the touchline or something catchy like that, it could work, but we'd have to employ good people.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"we'd have to employ good people.'" your case crumbled at this point!
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| The NRl were suppose to be trialing a tracking device inserted into the ball which would indicate to the video ref/4th official when the ball went forward. It was sugest he then advises the ref or that it be changed so that the ref had a wrist strap which vibrated.
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| Quote ="mikej"The NRl were suppose to be trialing a tracking device inserted into the ball which would indicate to the video ref/4th official when the ball went forward. It was sugest he then advises the ref or that it be changed so that the ref had a wrist strap which vibrated.'"
I read this somewhere too. Or was it mentioned by a commentator during one of the SOO games ?
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| My proposal a while back was the best way. Just have the ball so when passed forwards, it explodes. No grey areas that way and it would be an amazing viewing spectacle.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"My proposal a while back was the best way. Just have the ball so when passed forwards, it explodes. No grey areas that way and it would be an amazing viewing spectacle.'"
christ it would cost saints a fortune if this was to happen...
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