He's got to get a ban after last night for kicking out in the tackle he does it every week and gets away with it, Carvell did it once and the RFL banned him for a match!

Don't think there was much in it - hes a petulant little sod who you would love to have in our team as much as hate him for his attitude to others at times. A future world star in the making (as much as I hate saying that) if he carries on at this rate.

Be surprised if he gets more than a warning letter regarding future conduct

It's the 3rd man in at the back on JJB's legs that might get him the ban, put JJB in a very dangerous position.

ref said there was nothing wrong with it. It was that exact same tackle at headingly that started a brawl last year.

Yeah I heard the ref say that there was no problem with the tackle. The RFL might not agree. It was dangerous.

The kick out was a tad naughty nothing more.
If he has a bad record then he might get one game but I would be surprised.

Ban him for the season!!!
The lad is class!

He's very lucky that the kick didn't end up connecting with the head, looking at the gradings it would have been an E - F offence. As it is the kick could still be given an B-D grade and the dangerous tackle A-D. I wouldn't want to see Warrington players doing actions like that.

Yes he is a great player but his actions sometimes is what leads to him getting booed.

The stato Lister is back!

Nothing in it really for me, caution letter.
Regarding the cannonball tackle, I'm not quite sure where he connects. Either above or below the knee. Above, no problem but again a warning as it could be potentially dangerous. Below the knee and must cop a ban as that's just extremely poor from an experienced player who should know better.

well, aparently, thats what the rfl gave the green light to last year, when the 'lima tackle' was getting more and more housey and they changed it so it was an immediate sinbinning, they said that you could tackle the legs from behind, as its not forcing 'the knees' in the wrong direction, which i think is fine as long as you've not got two bods pushing you the opposite direction.

I dont think anything will come from it though.

really? who did he kick last week against saints?

The fact that non of you mention the kick out that just missed Finches face says it all...

Didn't mention carMont's swinging arm and throttling of Lee smith that caused him to react, and kick out though either.

would you say the same thing if sam tomkins kicked out every time he was tackled high? NO!

The thread is about kicking out.... If Leeds had not been spoiling at the PTB all game, all would have been well. Or are you suggesting that Sam deliberatly got himself in a position with his shoulders on the floor, and his feet in the air?

Didn't miss. Smith got him square in the jaw.

Dangerous tackle needs looking at. Put JJB in danger!!!!

Your concern for good ole JJB is touching, if not a little self motivated, his tackle took the knees in their natural direction, surely if he wanted to injure the player, he would have gone in from the front to bend them back, and so cause injury.

I think I get RL rules, but I wouldn't say I know them inside out. Recently, when watching Wigan, I've noticed Tomkins pulling opposition players off his team mate whilst he's being tackled. I can't point out specific situations as I don't make proper notes on them, but I see him pulling players off whilst waiting to play the ball, or coming behind the opposition's third man and pulling him off then moving to play the ball. Is it allowed or is it just seen as run of the mill RL? Can't say I've ever seen a player get involved in stopping the opposition's defenders other than when a player's getting pushed into touch.

We had a player banned for 4 weeks for kicking out and his was nowhere near as bad as those on show on Friday. The amateurs get hammered for things that the pros get away with all the time! Surely it should be the other way round as the pros should be setting a good example?

Had Carmont not smacked him, then Smith would not have kicked out. If Smith gets cited, so does Carmont. The Tomkins kicking out was just petulance. The person who I would expect to be up at Red Hall this week is Ryan Bailey once again.

Was that away at Westhoughton? If so it just shows how depending on which side of the fence you sit how you view things. If it was the one the player got sent off in that game it was much worse. Four games was harsh though.

Think people need to remember Wigan play by different rules and are exempt by the RFL the same punishments of other clubs

It was dangerous, but I don't think intentional though.

I've ranted about this joker before and I wont go into all I've said about him again. I admire what he can do well, and he can do some things very very well, but I think the guy is a disgrace in many other ways.

I don't really think the kick out was that serious...there were two or three other things that got on my tits more than the kick out that are not in the spirit of RL whatsoever.