..cos they couldnt catch a cold based on that game.

oh well. just have to take it all out on Widnes.

Play like that + they won't beat Widnes.

Remember it's a 4 game season - all we have to do is get into the playoffs

You're starting to get it, but that's not it. You have to actually win in the play offs to reach the Grand Final. Then win that. We keep smashing our face on the final hurdle, you've tripped and fallen into the water jump up to now.

Quite right.

Pre-season phase one starts just before Christmas
Pre-season phase two starts in Ferbruary
The season starts in September.

Hopefully we can start to pick up some good form towards the end of the Summer and lead us into the start of the season.

Literally the only positive to take away from tonights game. Maybe we're doing it the right way around - though it'd be nice if we didn't have to make it look so humiliating.

The only positive you say?

Not sure about that. Chris Hill had a fantastic game.

I think I'm falling in love with our skull-capped hero.

Our only forward who wanted to do hard yards tonight. No shame in his performance. Wood should be dropped.

What message will it send out to players like McCarthy if he doesn't make the 17 next week after some of those displays?

Who would you drop? Wood, Hodgeson, Blythe, Carvell?

All of the above!

Think we need to wait for Ratch to come back before Hodgson, and to give us sometime to sort a kicker out!
Gaz OB coming back over Easter (if true) needs slotting in somewhere too

Team could do with a shake up Bring in some fresh faces who look they want to put a bit of effort in and get the basics right

Hill the only Wire player tonight who had a decent game

I like the look of Hill very much. Some players are resting on their laurels. I'll add Morley to that list. A season too far for a legend and my favourite player. He is light years away from the Morley that did the Hansen hit. He no longer enforces and we have no replacement.

In order
Carvell
Wood
Blythe
M.Monas

Not Hodgson though even with cover, kicking is brilliant and he just needs a rollicking and should take it in.

Pack of

Cooper -Higham- Morley
Westwood -Waterhouse
Grix

Hill
Dwyer
Tyke
Currie or Bridge

Forget people accusing us of disrespecting Widnes like Wigan did and actually go on record and say, sorry last week some performances were just weak and we dropped players as a result.

Riley deserves a shout, played well tonight and in my opinoion, pushed Hill close for wire man of the match.

Hodgson really the only one because of his goal kicking that cannot be dropped really and it is key to give the you the young lads a bit of encouragement

I don't care if we lose next week as long as Smith is on the record and says that he CANNOT play the those players he dropped as they were below the standards expected from the club.

It means that our new generation of fans can start talking like the rest of us,

"I've watched Warrington for two years now and I have to say the current shower are the worst I've seen".

Is there any pride in the jersey any more?

Smith strikes me as the kind of chap who would rather work to build up and work on a player's game, rather than drop them based on a couple of performances. I think he only drops when he thinks the head isnt right or they've been a bit naughty.

or too send a message that they are not safe based on last season performances?