thoughts... who would we prefer... grix is always safe, ratchford has experience, gaz obrian is a great prospect...

Decisions, worth a poll?

Is Gaz O'Brien fit yet?

I think it would be worth giving Ratchford a go and really step up the competition for places. Its great that we have options.

It's Ratchford all day long for me at this stage. With O'Brien on the verge of being passed fit and the season 5-6 weeks away, he won't be 100%.

No big miss IMO ! With Ratchford , O'Brien & Grix who can step into any void left by Myler fortunately it's one of the positions we have an abundance of talent in so no worries from me !

Very sad for Myler but not a major problem for us. Leeds have proved that you don't win Super League in February / March anyway.

O'Brien not quite ready - Ratchford can play the foil to Briers.

6. Ratchford
7. Briers

Not too much of a concern as long as these two stay fit. What did people think of Ratchford yesterday?

I think we will miss Myler actually despite what some of the apparent SL coaches on this thread might think. The problem is that with Hodgson also out we are missing 2 pivots. Whilst Riley does ok as a stand in full back he is nowhere near the extra half back we use Hodgson for. I would have started with Ratchford at 1 against Hull to give us that flexibility.

Can't be doing this Leeds won super league thing !
They didn't they won a four match play off to win the grand final which were the only four games they played decent all season !
They were only average before then how the fk someone like Bailey got into the England squad is beyond me he was garbage all season and is nowhere near good enough for international rugby league !
How that muppet who writes for sporting life made Leeds team of the year is nothing short of disgraceful surely team of the year is the team that won more games over the season and topped the league last year it was us before that Wigan !
Grand final IMO is no different that the challenge cup four/ five game comp that is great to win but is nowhere near as big an achievement as finishing top of the 27 game format !
We scored more points than anyone else and had the best defence something I think has been forgotten about by Leeds fluke GF win

If the Grand Final is so easy to win how come only four teams have ever won it?

Why don't teams like us, Hull, Huddersfield, Catalans etc win it?

Perhaps some teams are better at knock out rugby than others !
We seem only to be able to focus on one competition two previous seasons it was CC last year the League !
Maybe it's a mental attitude thing that we need to work on ! IMO we have the best overall squad in the comp !

i have to echo the thoughts of others, myler being out will give ratchford a chance in the side and i feel he may become quite an asset alongside briers.

Feel sorry for Myler,but most peoples opinion of him seems to be he is nothing more than a support player rather than a creative one!!Gives a chance for 1 or 2 others to step into the fold,Perhaps a nice Headache to have.

Any news on how long he is going to be out for? Dislocated elbow is very painful. I did it when I was 25 and the docs said its very uncommon for adults to sustain that injury because that joint is so tight. I was in a sling for the good part of a year and its still not right. Obviously Myler will get better treatment than me though.

Shenton suffered it in the Grand Final last year anyone know whether hes fit for the start of the season?

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/de ... nes-injury Andy Wilson in the Guardian seems to think it will be a lengthy layoff, but nothing confirmed yet beyond the fact that he will miss the start of the season.

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/de ... nes-injury Andy Wilson in the Guardian seems to think it will be a lengthy layoff, but nothing confirmed yet beyond the fact that he will miss the start of the season.

Use to be more Fingers And Shoulders getting pushed out of joint,now it seems the Elbow is getting some stick in the tackle!
I think it was a Disslocated Elbow on Sean Long that put paid to his playing days at Hull!!It seems to be the most Painfull of all Disslocations though.

Ratchford in for Myler... Ratchford will be awesome and Myler will find it hard to get back in the team..

If it does end up Ratchford coming into the halves for Myler then we will find out if what the Salford fans told us was true, that we had signed the wrong one because Ratchford was ten times the player...

As for Myler being out who cares about the early part of the season anyway as we all know all you have to do to win Super League is win 4 games at the end of the year so Myler can sit it out and do rehab till then if needs be.

I don't think some people respect how good Myler really is. He will be missed and I'm hoping that Ratchford is more than an adequate replacement in the meantime. Backline will now mean Riley to fullback to cover for Hodgson, Williams in on the wing, Bridge, Atkins, Monas as you were. Sir Lee at 6, Ratch at 7. Evans and Blythe are there in case of injuries, they'll get their shot in time.

The Rhinos have won this GF 4 times in the past 5 seasons the lucky so and so's

Not luck they are very good at knockout rugby pee poor at wining the league !
Do people want 27 games of success or 4 ?

Are they pee poor at winning the league? They won the league in 2004 and 2009 and won the Grand Final in both years.
Pee poor at winning the league is us we've done it once since 1973...

In these 5 years where Leeds have won 4 Grand Finals who do you reckon has been a better league side, Leeds or us? As its the league that counts not stuff like the knockout cups, who is a better league side?

Last season yes they were nothing more than average for 27 games ! The past is the past ! I was talking about the person off sporting life who said they were team of the year after playing 4 good games n there players were all of a sudden top class internationals like Bailey and JJB who are poor IMO they have two world class players in Hall and Sinfield as long as he plays Lose Fwd !

Sorry but i disagree with you calling JJB mickey poor, he's been one of the most improved players in SL over the last few years. I also used to think that he was a fairly run of the mill SL player but my opinion of him has changed over the last few seasons, he's a strong runner that makes very good yards, he's also got very good footwork and good hands for a backrow forward.

He also performed well in the 4 nations and gave us some good impact and yardage from the bench.

I'd quite like 31 games of success tbh



As many have said, it would have to be Ratchford at the start of the season, but O'Brien looked like a terrific prospect when I saw him last year. For me, he seemed to offer far more creativity than Myler. Hopefully a Ratchford/O'Brien half-back partnership can be our long term solution.

Shenton has been back in full training so should be ok for the start of the season. I guess it's one of those injuries that causes a weakness in the joint and can plague a player. I know Cunningham suffered and I think eventually had to have an op to sort it out. Hopefully Mylar can make a quick and full recovery, and like people are saying, although there's never a good time for an injury, better now than the business end of the season, or mid way through a GF grrrrrrr