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| A lot of the Tomkins abuse seems to claim that he tried to kick a player in the head. Seriously, no matter how much you hate him, does the replay look like that was the intention? It's so obviously just a desperate lunge to stop a try being scored using what is, quite admittedly an illegal method ( tbh, at the time I didn't even know it was illegal to do that, seen plenty tries not given due to a leg under the ball ). It wasn't 'studs up' or malicious, just daft, so criticize, yes, but keep a sense of perspective. Hock's another matter....
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| Personally i thought he was going for the ball to knock it out of Clarkes hands, nothing incident for me, think me may see Atkins up, looked like he had a barney with someone
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| I feel the same way. He was simply trying to stop the try and it was a reflex action. The injury to Jon Clarke's head had occurred some time before and Sam's boot was nowhere near. As Yed says Hock is an entirely different matter. I would also be looking at Lima for the cowardly hair pull and the elbow in Matt King's face.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"I feel the same way. He was simply trying to stop the try and it was a reflex action. The injury to Jon Clarke's head had occurred some time before and Sam's boot was nowhere near. As Yed says Hock is an entirely different matter. I would also be looking at Lima for the cowardly hair pull and the elbow in Matt King's face.'"
The Morley trip, the Louis Anderson grapple tackle and the Matt King punching and elbowing Lima for no reason other than him tackling him.
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| You are allowed to trip if you have hands on the player
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| Yes he didn't hurt Clarke but the point is he could have. It was a reckless lunge which easily could have seen a boot to the head/face for clarke - it WAS dangerous and Clarke was lucky not to be injured by it.
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| Quote ="post"The Morley trip, the Louis Anderson grapple tackle and the Matt King punching and elbowing Lima for no reason other than him tackling him.'"
The Morley thing was an error as he was off balance and Silverwood recognised that. No grapple from Louis, and would he retaliate if someone tackled you by the hair and then elbowed you in the face? My wife knows little about RL, but she watched the replay of the second half last night and thought Wigan were a load of thugs.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"You are allowed to trip if you have hands on the player'"
You mean the cumberland throw, . You can do it if you have 2 hands on the player, Morley had one arm on Tomkins and that was round his neck.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"The Morley thing was an error as he was off balance and Silverwood recognised that. No grapple from Louis, and would he retaliate if someone tackled you by the hair and then elbowed you in the face? My wife knows little about RL, but she watched the replay of the second half last night and thought Wigan were a load of thugs.'"
Morleys was an error? Thats ok then, Hocks was an error too.
Louis Anderson grapple, I suggest you watch it again without the tinted spectacles on.
If you watch the King Lima incident , King is being tackled and Lima sticks the shoulder in and King doesn't like it so elbows Lima in the face which promts Lima to scrag his hair leading to King punching and elbowing Lima on the floor.
If your Mrs thinks Wigan are thugs then that settles the argument.
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| Dirty dirty Hock more spare time for the coke head
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| Quote ="post"The Morley trip, the Louis Anderson grapple tackle and the Matt King punching and elbowing Lima for no reason other than him tackling him.'"
Dirty Wire.... i dont know how we get away with it.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Dirty Wire.... i dont know how we get away with it.'"
Glad you have acknowledged it.
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| Quote ="post"Glad you have acknowledged it.'"
i thought we ruined the game yesterday with our underhand tactics.
Our constant lying on in the tackle was almost desperate at times.... what a truly despicable brand of rugby we play.
our fullback was a disgrace again.... constantly waving his arms around and shouting at the ref for a penalty in almost every tackle... and dont get me started on our hair pulling and eye gouging.
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| Did you see Morley on Finch, same old dirty Morley giving away penalties, how you can take inspiration for your avatar from him i don't know MD
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i thought we ruined the game yesterday with our underhand tactics.'"
You know some of you Wire fans are alright, not as one eyed as I thought.
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| Is there a limit to the amount of times there can be 'u mad' or sour grapes or babies crying pics posted in response to these desperate wigan fans claiming evertthing under the sun? They're more pathetic than sam tomkins!
'Oh not morely was picking on finch, who, stupidly, was trying to flatten him' 'wire's tactics were house yeatsetday, but ignore the eye gouging and the punching from several players on the wigan team.' Grow up! The way it is looking wigan should be without lima and hock for crusaders and quite possibly sam for that errant boot!
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Personally i thought he was going for the ball to knock it out of Clarkes hands, nothing incident for me, think me may see Atkins up, looked like he had a barney with someone'"
I thought it was a penalty if a player goes in with his feet, regardless if its involved in a try scored or just in general play?
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| IICR didn't Briers do it on Keith Senior a few years ago, was he banned? Doubt it.
The difference between the 2 being Briers went to kick the ball out of his hands and Tomkins went to place his boot between whitewash and ball.
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| Quote ="post"You know some of you Wire fans are alright, not as one eyed as I thought.
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A bit like one of our players nearly was yesterday. Wigan's spoiling tactics were severely exposed yesterday and how you can defend them is beyond a joke.
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| Quote ="W.T.W"I thought it was a penalty if a player goes in with his feet, regardless if its involved in a try scored or just in general play?
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When i say nothing incident, i mean not one to start going on about Vomkins blah blah blah, it's not as if he drove his foot in to Clarkes head
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| Quote ="post"You know some of you Wire fans are alright, not as one eyed as I thought.
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I believe you can find facetious under 'f' in the dictionary.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"A bit like one of our players nearly was yesterday. Wigan's spoiling tactics were severely exposed yesterday and how you can defend them is beyond a joke.'"
How I can defend them? In the same way you Dire fans defend the Morley trip and 99 pens in a row, Matt King punchin Lima and Anderson grapple tackle.
Our spoiling tactics? Just a brain fart from a hot head, nobody was hurt so leave it.
If he would have damaged Harrisons vision so that he missed a few games then a lengthy ban would ensue, if Harrison was blinded then Hock would be banned for life. Harrison is fine so I can't see anything past a 1 or 2 match ban max.
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| Quote ="post"How I can defend them? In the same way you Dire fans defend the Morley trip and 99 pens in a row, Matt King punchin Lima and Anderson grapple tackle.
Our spoiling tactics? Just a brain fart from a hot head, nobody was hurt so leave it.
If he would have damaged Harrisons vision so that he missed a few games then a lengthy ban would ensue, if Harrison was blinded then Hock would be banned for life. Harrison is fine so I can't see anything past a 1 or 2 match ban max.'"
keep it coming.. im loving it.
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| Quote ="Bobby_Peru":1mh9jdleI believe you can find facetious under 'f' in the dictionary.'" Show IPA
adjective
1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
2. amusing; humorous.
3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing.
Cheers, I'll take option 2.
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| Firstly, thank you for an entertaining game yesterday. Red Hall will be packed this week - Tony Smith plus all seventeen Wolves players from yesterday will be there on a charge for not reading the script and letting Wigan have it all their own way. tut tut...
I bet Matt King was grateful for his head of hair on 68 minutes and 45 seconds - look where O'Loughlin's knee went! Usual sly third man into the tackle merchant. It was said in commentary that the Wigan assistant coach went into the refs dressing room at half time asking how they could improve their penalty count - personally I though Silverwood was very very lenient on Wigan particularly at the play of the ball. Then again, nothing new there eh??? Hock totally lost it yesterday, although when he made that break in the second half I was willing Eddie to say "and there goes Hock making a dash for the line!" or would that be childish??
Well done again on yesterday's performance but remain focussed for next week.
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