With no disrespect to Swinton, we should make a safe passage into the Cup quarter-finals on Friday.

After another ruthless win for us, and Swinton drawing with Whitehaven, is it the perfect time to basically play a reserve team?

I know that against Keighley we put out a relatively strong side, but I'm of the view that with a key game against Leeds the following week, we should rest even more players. It was noticeable towards the end of the Cas match that a few players (Hodgson, Briers) picked up knocks and they will undoubtably not be in the lineup, but should we rest almost all of the starting 13 (except possibly O'Brien)?

Yes fans will be perturbed at paying a high ticket price, but isn't winning at Headingley the following week more important?

Our lineup for the Reserve match vs Cas was:
WOLVES

Chris Riley, Ben Hellewell, James Saltonstall, James Mendeika, Ryan Shaw, Bobbie Goulding, Gavin Williams, Jamie Peasnell, Jon Clarke, Jack Morrison, Liam Hulme, Ben Currie, James Laithwaite.

And I think they would have little problem in winning vs Swinton, with maybe a few more additions such as O'Brien, Rhys Williams and Tyrone McCarthy.

Thoughts?

I will be watching the match, and even though I would enjoy seeing some high quality rugby on show from our star players, I would prefer that they be rested, and then watch our boys beat Leeds the week after....

Oh and I don't watch academy games, so it would be nice to see James Laithwaite in action, always see him working out at my gym.

I've had several.

1. Why not just not play the game? Give us a bye and have done with it. Sod the reserves, get Crossfields to play them. In fact every time these 'not worthy to grace the hallowed turf of the HJ' teams turn up, I'll play. (although I would use up a lot of the interchanges for my fag breaks)

2. Show the Swinton players the respect they deserve. They train hard, and play hard, evrey week for sod all money all for the love of the game. They have the opportunity to play against the team sitting at the top of the table, full of internationals. Something to tell their grandkids about. Everyone of them will walk out on Friday night hoping to take one tackle, one pass, one offload, even one try home with them. Lets just kill the game at the grass roots.

3. Lets stop these fools entering the CC at all. Lets kill all the romance it has. Sky Sports should win. SL is all that matters, resign the CC to the rubbish tip where it belongs.

4. You're a United fan.

5. From a Warrington point of view, it renders game completely pointless. With our relatively short injury list, it would be the perfect opportunity to do a bit of squad rotation and sharpen a few up, Blythe to play for example. Smith showed in the last round that he wants to keep the intensity up.

Champions again, it seems you are entering the realm of the football fan. We should give swinton the credit they deserve for getting to this point in the CC, there is no guarantee that the first team would be beat them (we may have an off day) let alone the reserves.

Anyone who is fit to play should be played.

any doubts, rest them, and we should be ok but we cant hedge our bets on a reserve side.

is there any rule regarding squads played in the CC? would we even be allowed to play a full reserve side?

Also why would god play a weakened team when in the round previous he played as strong a team as possible?

It's simple enough to see why this forum is going down the pan when people like you two go on the attack, when all I've done is voiced my view and the view of a fair amount also.

And what's with this venomous attitude towards football? Open your eyes and compare the FA Cup to the CC.
Ideally RL and the Challenge Cup would have high potential for 'giantkillings' as football does, but because of the nature of the sports/scoring, it's far easier to turn the game one-sided in Rugby, and that coupled with a transparent gap between professional and semi-pro and then amateur means that results are 'near' certainties. It's not desireable but it's reality.

'Show the Swinton players the respect they deserve' - Why not show the Warrington reserves similar respect? In my view the Warrington Reserve side is good enough to defeat Swinton and that at the end of the day is what we need to do - Win. There isn't much point in delivering a cricket score except highlighting the gap in class again, we just have to get the job done. No matter what team we put out, it will still be a great occasion for Swinton and their supporters anyway and they've done very well to reach this point in the competition.

'Also why would god play a weakened team when in the round previous he played as strong a team as possible?'- He can do as he wishes and thinks best, but dont be naive and just assume he'll do as he did for the Keighley match. The game against a resurgent Leeds side is one many are labelling as a very big game and simply must be treated as priority over the Swinton match.

Man Utd fan? - Hmmm not quite.

and all they did was respond to your request for "thoughts", you need to grow some.

As for playing our u20s against Swinton: to be honest I wanted to go to Wembley again this year so I don't think it would be a sensible thing to do.

I think we should maybe rest 1 or 2 players like we did against Keighley, but otherwise play a decent team, not only showing Swinton respect, but also to ensure we actually do progress to the quarter finals

Yes our Under 20's could probably beat Swinton, but it would be a bit disrespectful to them and the competition to do this.

But it would also be pointless playing a full strength team, so we should definitely rest players who are looking tired, and give those on the fringes of the squad like Chris Riley a much needed run out.

I would be go and watch our Under 20's v Swinton. I will not be going if we are playing the first team with a couple of players rested (which I assume will be the case).

Only players I'd consider resting is Moz & Carvell, and maybe Westwood. Obviously Briers, Hodgson and LAnderson who picked up knocks at the weekend too. Apart from that, keep the 3/4's and OB going.

Obviously to do the above means none of our first choice forwards are out there so it would mean a recall for at least one of Mitch, Tyke & Blythe.

Did hudds not get knocked out by a team 2 div lower when tony smith was coach. sure I heard him mention it in an interview, so he will give Swinton the respect they deserve.

Its a tricky one to call for TS because of the Leeds game the following week. But we must show Swinton and the Challenge Cup respect.
I would like some players to be rested. But not so many that our chances of progressing is put in danger.

Obviously in TS we trust, but I hope we rest Moz, Brett, Lee, Louis, Ben W, and Monas M.
By resting six players we would be able to field a team that shows respect to not only Swinton but the Challenge Cup as a competition, whilst also giving us a very good chance of progressing to the next round.

Who comes in to replace those 6? Blythe, Riley, Evans, Clarke, Williams....? Mitchell and McCarthy both on loan, aren't they, rather than dual registration?

So,

Riley
Williams
Evans
Atkins
King
Bridge
O'Brien
Carvell
Clarke
Wood
Solomona
Blythe
Grix

Higham
Cooper
Joel Monas
Laithwaite?

That would be Hunslet beating Huddersfield in 2003.

With all due respect to the Huddersfield side of 2003, our current vintage is on another planet.

A second string Wire side would easily beat Swinton, but it would be showing them and the competition a lack of respect if we were to do this.

Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Who comes in to replace those 6? Blythe, Riley, Evans, Clarke, Williams....? Mitchell and McCarthy both on loan, aren't they, rather than dual registration? So, Riley Williams Evans Atkins King Bridge O'Brien Carvell Clarke Wood Solomona Blythe Grix Higham Cooper Joel Monas Laithwaite?'" ANCW, That team is strong and would give us a very good chnce of getting through to the next round. Tyrone went on loan to Wakey for one month commencing 28th April. Unless it has been extended we could recall him. www.warringtonwolves.org/mccarth ... dcats-4150 The only change I would do to your team would be swap Grix and Bridge around and bring Tyrone onto the bench if he is avaiable. Riley Williams Evans Atkins King Grix O'Brien Carvell Clarke Wood Solomona Blythe Bridge Higham Cooper McCarthy Laithwaite

Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Who comes in to replace those 6? Blythe, Riley, Evans, Clarke, Williams....? Mitchell and McCarthy both on loan, aren't they, rather than dual registration? So, Riley Williams Evans Atkins King Bridge O'Brien Carvell Clarke Wood Solomona Blythe Grix Higham Cooper Joel Monas Laithwaite?'" ANCW, That team is strong and would give us a very good chnce of getting through to the next round. Tyrone went on loan to Wakey for one month commencing 28th April. Unless it has been extended we could recall him. www.warringtonwolves.org/mccarth ... dcats-4150 The only change I would do to your team would be swap Grix and Bridge around and bring Tyrone onto the bench if he is avaiable. Riley Williams Evans Atkins King Grix O'Brien Carvell Clarke Wood Solomona Blythe Bridge Higham Cooper McCarthy Laithwaite

All this talk of "that team would stand a very good chance of progressing to the next round" is a bit of an understatement.

The teams both of you have named would put at least 50 points past Swinton. Matches between teams like ourselves and anyone outside the top division are mere formalities.

Also to go back to a point raised by the OP, I can't understand the attitude of some people on here to football and it's supporters either. All this 'wendyball' nonsense, it's the most popular sport in the world for a good reason.

Oh I agree entirely on the strength of our team. I've also little doubt we will have a strong team out.

I have read with interest all the posts from you Warrington fans and I can see both sets of arguments with regard to the standard of team you play against my team Swinton.
What is evident is the fact that a few of you have forgotten that not so long ago Warrington were a side struggling to stay in this ridiculous set up we now have called Super league.I refer to the posts regarding your under 21's being fielded and being good enough to beat the Lions.When was the last time any of you lot went to a game outside of the protected haven of super league, there are many very very good teams knocking about who i suspect would be more than a match for your under 21's and to sugest anything otherwise smacks of arrogance.

When the Lions take to the field on Friday the majority will have just put in a full days work at their chosen job and will have done so all week unlike the Wire players, I know that is no fault of the Warrington club, but it has created a two tier Rugby league in this country.It might well be the time When Super League Europe branch off and leave the Championship and Championship one clubs to do there own thing.

Assuming you don't play a side to understrength I am under no illusions you will beat the Lions and if you do I hope to see your club at Wembley in August when I will join many others from the "have not's divisions" in celebrating a great old cup competition and a Wires win.

Sorry our current U20s team with three or four senior squad additions would be comfortably strong enough to beat Swinton.

I've been to see Swinton on a number of occasions and still maintain that a team predominantly encompassing our very strong Reserve players, whilst also including players who can't quite make it into the SL XIII (Clarke, Riley etc) and a forward to lead, should enjoy a comfortable win.

If memory serves correct, we played Swinton in pre-season 2 years ago and sent near enough an under 20's team and still won by 10pts against a full Swinton team. We are now in a stronger position than at the point and have players like Clarke, Riley, Williams, Evans, McCarthy to use and include.

In all likelihood, Tony Smith will play a very strong side with only those with knocks/fatigue sitting out, but playing a predominantly reserve side will stand us in better shape for the Rhinos match.

We'll see.

I am a bit perplexed about how selecting a squad to win the game would show 'disrespect' to Swinton?

Ideal game for us to introduce a number of the exciting U20s team we have at Warrington.

But neither of those teams are our u20s team. This week our u20 team was:

Chris Riley, Ben Hellewell, James Saltonstall, James Mendeika, Ryan Shaw, Bobbie Goulding, Gavin Williams, Jamie Peasnell, Jon Clarke, Jack Morrison, Liam Hulme, Ben Currie, James Laithwaite.

Subs:Brooke Broughton, Brad Dwyer, Glenn Riley, Andrew Finn


I wouldn't be putting much money on theat team beating Swinton; would you?

I'm sure that if some of us on here were the coach and you played the U20's on friday night then we'd we knocked out of the cup.
Lets jsut let TS decide. He's the coach, not us lot. Yes you can have your opinion but ultimatley it's down to Smith. I'm sure he will rest a few players but will still have a strong team out, which will include the likes of Carvell, Atkins, Bridge and King.