Im Not saying its Jons fault we lost to Hudds.. But can Everyone else see the lack of Direction and Go forward when he comes on? He had a stinker last night to be far. But as far as I can remember he hasnt stood out in a game since Widnes at home 2005..

I just cant see anyway that he can be here next year and We'd do well Just to farm him out to Widnes now on a dual contract and Maybe bring In a Young Hooker from the Championship to learn there trade of one of the best hookers in the world (MM)

I think all players portion the blame for last nights defeat, but i have never been a fan of Clarke.

When he came on, i think he was trying too hard. We were chasing the game, and out of our 4 subs there was only him that could offer us something different.

He did have a shocker, but cant blame the lad for trying.

Widnes next year for him me thinks...

He certainly does that.

Widnes ?

I don't even think Whitehaven would take him on that showing.

After watching (and losing money on) Widnes on Thursday he'd fit in nicely there.

When you hear "Jon Clarke comes on to replace Michael Monaghan" it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence, does it?

is clarke suppose to turn into superman and beat the opposition pack all by his self , just face facts our go forward was shocking last night on paper the best pack in the league was dominated and there line speed was outstanding , please get off john clarkes back he as put in years off good service to this club , suppose a lot of the doom and gloom merchants have only been watching for the last few seasons , wasnt so long back clarkey was GB number 9 give him a break ffs , ps tony smith must see something in him or he wouldnt get selected , what ever next tony smith not good enough

Ther were others who were far worse than John Clarke Last night !!

it does when you consider how monas was before he got subbed.

Where did we find the 08 version of michael monaghan from this week?

He was awful, but Clarke coming on didn't fill me with confidence really. Any reason that Higham wasn't on the bench?

I've always stuck up for Clarke and think he has been a decent player for the club. But last night he did have a nightmare.

If his contract is up at the end of the season it's time to say thanks and move on.

Not one to pick a hole in your post but can you tell me last time Clarke had a good game?
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And also Tell me one starting hooker in superleague you "wouldnt" swap him for?

In a choice between Higham & Clarke for the resrve hooking position, it's no contest, Higham every time!

There was a season, it might have been 2007, where Clarke was arguably our best player. We were blitzed by injuries, we played VAnderson and Clarke in the halves on many periods and he stood up and was counted. It might have been 2008 when we played Saints away and Penny/Bracek by Gidley/Gardner and we lost the game; however, in the first half (I'm sure it was this one) Clarke had a top game and was integral to getting us on the front foot and over the advantage line.

Not saying Clarke's a worldy, he obviously isn't, but to ignore the past five or six years is pretty harsh and unfair.

You've just gone back 4 years, says a lot really.

Every team has average players, that's what the salary cap does - it makes you have some. When you win, they get hidden almost - they just become part of that, a cog in a machine. When you lose, they get exposed, or their limitations get exposed. Clarke is one one of our mediocre players, as is Higham, Grix, Solomona, Riley et al. The key for Smith is to get the team playing well again, and these guys will just slot in.

Clarke has been offered a job next year with the Post Office - delivering telegraphed passes.

It says a lot when somebody has to dismiss six years of rugby to make a point that could easily be made without the mythical fact slotted in there.

Clarke is average, poor on occasions and not the caliber of player the Wire Ultras demand, but he has had his uses over the years, even if you hate him, you can't deny that.

As sure as the sun will rise in the East, Warrington fans will blame Jon Clarke for any defeat.

Regardless of the fact we were already being played off the park long before he was even introduced.

I thank you, Browny
some on here, just HAVE to have a scapegoat
Just add him to the long list, which includes
Kevin Penny
Mark Forster (2 wingers, ffs)
Mike Wainwright
Gary Sanderson
John Fieldhouse
John Thursfield (admittedly, EVERY bit deserved)

Clarke got panned on a seperate thread on Friday, which is probably now in double figures-page wise, so, lo and behold, to kick a player whilst he's down, let's start another. PATHETIC.
As I said on Friday, plenty of seasoned pros, had far worse games on Friday (and not for the first time),...where's their threads....oh surprise surprise, there aren't any
Oh, and just to remind you all again, I AM NOT A CLARKE FAN

The whole Clarke thing is a funny one....For some reason, just the mention of the man's name seems to spark off vastly differing emotions!!

Personally, and I've said it on the other thread, it is a simple logic.....Clarke, while he has been a good servant to the club, has simply reached his 'use-by' date with Wire.

It happens with a lot of players....Wainwright, Noone, Mark Gleeson, most recently, Vinnie Anderson, the list is never ending....Quite simply, as a club progresses so it has to shed players who have basically served their use of helping that club to make strides forward, but who are now unable to provide any further impetus.

Clarke, with a combination of his advancing years and his limited abilities, no longer can provide anything to the club as a whole.

I must admit that some of the bile that is poured out towards him can be a little distasteful....However, somewhere between the bile and those who defend him lies the truth and that is that Clarke should be no more than a fringe player for a club of Wire's ambition.

Yes, he can help to fill a few gaps when needed, but in a backs-to-the-wall situation like Friday night was, Clarke is more likely to have his frailties exposed than actually provide any kind of inspiration.

No thanks. Why do we want an average old hooker when we have a very good young one - Chris Lunt -- and you can keep your hands off him.

Warrington are now on the downward slide after two seasons when you were pretty good.

Yeah...we're in freefall, after beating
defending SL champs
3x SL champs in the previous 3 seasons
a team that's part-dominated the game since SLs inception, two of them away from home, all in the space of a month....downward slide, yeah

Have you been sniffing the Grannox air again?

My complaints with Clarke are not just to do with last night and in the past i've defended him, always thought his workrate and defence was good, my opinion though is this looks a season too far for him, yes there are squad players but now he just looks way below what we need and he stands out like a sore thumb. I actually feel for the guy, he's like the lame dog, suffering and the owners refuse to put him down out of misguided love.
He shouldn't be used as a scapegoat for Hudds but we should realise he's bringing nothing to the table and Hooker in this day is probably the most important position on the field in terms of go forward.