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| in the league express today saying he's off to hull fc
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| Stevo, not ventured out yet to buy my copy.
Who is the quote from?
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| That rumour is months old only has come up again because of Hull recently getting cap space.
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| wouldnt really be that bothered tbh, just told somebody else and he just shrugged his shoulders lol
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| Hull FC enquired about Myler a few months ago, only for Richie to turn down a move further north to fight and establish a first team place at Warrington.
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| If we managed to recoup most of the money that we spent on Myler then it could be the best outcome for both parties, so far it just hasn`t worked out. I`d have expected to see some big improvement from him by now, he needs to learn how to boss senior players a bit more and to take control of the middle by moving us around the pitch. He basically plays in the shadow of Lee Briers and doesn`t look mentally strong enough to take on the mantle of bossing the plays, he just seems to be reserved with ball in hand as if he`s feared of taking control whilst Lee Briers is on the pitch, he needs to take on the opposition line more.
He`s got talent but it looks to me like his talent lies in his support play, i don`t ever see him as an Andy Gregory, Sean Long or Stacey Jones type player that will control games from the middle in the mould of a little general.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"That rumour is months old only has come up again because of Hull recently getting cap space.'"
This a new one arisen it was also heard on humberside radio by some hull fans probably like the title states a rumour
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"If we managed to recoup most of the money that we spent on Myler then it could be the best outcome for both parties, so far it just hasn`t worked out. I`d have expected to see some big improvement from him by now, he needs to learn how to boss senior players a bit more and to take control of the middle by moving us around the pitch. He basically plays in the shadow of Lee Briers and doesn`t look mentally strong enough to take on the mantle of bossing the plays, he just seems to be reserved with ball in hand as if he`s feared of taking control whilst Lee Briers is on the pitch, he needs to take on the opposition line more.
He`s got talent but it looks to me like his talent lies in his support play, i don`t ever see him as an Andy Gregory, Sean Long or Stacey Jones type player that will control games from the middle in the mould of a little general.'"
That isn't bad is it.
i'll throw a few options about, cause i think we need to give him another season to mature. I may be wrong
1) he is always a support player and we get in a replacement like-4-like for Briers. Maybe erm from St George haha
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2) He matures next season into a what we need and then we have made a sound investment in him.
As you say he has the talent and is a superb try poacher. Fast as anything and has a rugby brain. I have said all along he needs a confidence boost.
I don't know whether giving him a leadership with Briers off the pitch would answer a few questions. Maybe against quins or someone at HJ. If it doesn't work then we know where we stand.
I like the guy and he has a big heart and obviously loves Warrington. He has decided to fight for a spot. But i realize there is no sentiment in this biz.
I just hope he does a J. Clarke and plays out of skin when given the chance in the hopes of rectifying missing the CC final.
But do you think it is okay just having a support player for a strong leading half?
Or do we need (not want) more of him?
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| I would be disappointed to lose Myler however given that we paid a fee for him and worked hard to get him, I would imagine that we would only release him if the club had someone lined up. I know he's more a support player but look how successful McGuire has been for Leeds.
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| Can't believe that people are slagging him off. He's a young lad, surrounded by more experienced players. He is bound to be subdued. As he gets older and some of the olders ones leave, such as Briers, I'm sure he will step up.
He's a cracking player and like all others, has strengths and weaknesses.
Only fear for me is that he is a Widnesian and we have found with others, they might wear our shirt but the black and white one isn't far underneath. When they finally do get back in SL, I expect them to be muttering in his ear, especially if he still isn't holding a regular spot.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I would be disappointed to lose Myler however given that we paid a fee for him and worked hard to get him, I would imagine that we would only release him if the club had someone lined up. I know he's more a support player but look how successful McGuire has been for Leeds.'"
I also would be disappointed to lose him. Having only had one season here and at the very young age of 20, to then sell him would be suprising and disappointing IMO. It can take a season or two to adjust to a new club, as well all know, and despite being axed from the Cup final squad last year and "not playing his best" his stats are good. He knows he's got alot of rugby behind him and to sell him now would be foolish, I think. We will see him flourish in 2011, after a good pre-season coaching with Johns and the previous season to adjust, he'll shine in 2011.
Pure, young, exciting English talent.
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| One season. A season in which he played his part and in which we had our highest league finish for years and won our second trophy in 30 odd years.
I'm not quite ready to give up on him just yet.
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| About as much chance of Myler going to Hull as there was of Sinfield coming to Warrington.
Mind you that didn't stop a fair few idiots believeing Sinfield was signing and that fairies live at the bottom of your garden.
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| Its the usual thing with a young player. Everybody wants them till they see them play then they soon want to say they're overrated.
When there's talk about who should replace Briers usually you get people saying "I'd like to see us bring through someone from the academy, rather than sign an NRL players, there's lads just as good as that in our academy but they don't get given a chance so they just sign for Saints or Wigan instead" (they haven't seen any Academy games they just say it because its the popular thing).
Then this young lad will come off the bench for 15 minutes to get his debut and everyone will say "looks like a great prospect"
Then after he's got 15 starts under his belt the chat will turn to "not a RL player for me, not got the brain for it - get rid to Widnes or Leigh"
Myler is miles better for a comparable age than any other young player I've seen at Warrington since Briers, Harris and Scully. Remember a 19/20 year old Briers was flaky, got targeted in defence, kicked out on the full, erratic decision making sometimes. What we don't want is for Myler to go to Hull and then in 4 years time us be talking about him as one that got away.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"About as much chance of Myler going to Hull as there was of Sinfield coming to Warrington.
Mind you that didn't stop a fair few idiots believeing Sinfield was signing and that fairies live at the bottom of your garden.'"
Mylers coming off the cap so that you can fit Sinfield on it. Obviously!
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| On the basis of the article in LE, Hull would want him on a loan deal until the end of this coming season. Seeing as we have five pivotal players in Briers, Monaghan, Clarke, Higham and Myler I don't see why we can't loan off Myler for the year and play Monaghan at 7 with Clarke and Higham rotating hookers.
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| Loan off myler(20 odd tries last year yet underperformed apparently) and keep an ageing clarke in the starting 17? Brilliant thinking!
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"On the basis of the article in LE, Hull would want him on a loan deal until the end of this coming season. Seeing as we have five pivotal players in Briers, Monaghan, Clarke, Higham and Myler I don't see why we can't loan off Myler for the year and play Monaghan at 7 with Clarke and Higham rotating hookers.'"
Completely stupid.
Out of your five "pivotal players" only three of those are first rate half-backs with one of them being not only Warrington's first choice hooker but also arguably the best hooker in the league. So you are going to send one of our first choice half-backs on loan for 12 months to one of our rival clubs leaving uis only two first choice half-backs and weaker at hooker. You're no Wayne Bennett.
Alos as you "don't see why we can't loan off Myler" I suggest you might wish to visit Spec-Savers when they re-open following the festive season as there is obviously something wrong with your eye-sight.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Completely stupid.
Out of your five "pivotal players" only three of those are first rate half-backs with one of them being not only Warrington's first choice hooker but also arguably the best hooker in the league. So you are going to send one of our first choice half-backs on loan for 12 months to one of our rival clubs leaving uis only two first choice half-backs and weaker at hooker. You're no Wayne Bennett.
Alos as you "don't see why we can't loan off Myler" I suggest you might wish to visit Spec-Savers when they re-open following the festive season as there is obviously something wrong with your eye-sight.'"
+1 sorry
I'd love RMyler to stay next year. He needs the game time and needs some responsibility. I believe in him and everyone who does should hope to see him improve next season.
I think we should have JC and obviously MM as Hooker. I think he is great here.
I don't mean to sound flippant or crude but i would love to see us either replace or get rid of one trick Mick. I don't know what he brings us except a second rate Cunningham flop. I am open to be lambasted, as long as i am told what he brings.
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| It may be one trick, but at least it's effective. When we were very lethargic and almost beaten by bradford away last year higham won us the game with 2 short range tries. He also single-handedly got us back into the play off game versus hudds to the point where we almost snatched an undeserved win. These are just 2 examples from last season, please feel free to point me in the direction of anything simliar clarke did.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"It may be one trick, but at least it's effective. When we were very lethargic and almost beaten by bradford away last year higham won us the game with 2 short range tries. He also single-handedly got us back into the play off game versus hudds to the point where we almost snatched an undeserved win. These are just 2 examples from last season, please feel free to point me in the direction of anything simliar clarke did.'"
I can't pin point times. Just vague memories. They aren't worth much but he is an outstandingly good Hooker. His passes from dummy half are inspired.
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| I'd like to believe you are being sarcastic, but sadly i don't.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I'd like to believe you are being sarcastic, but sadly i don't.'"
Good passing and Mickey Higham is the ultimate oxymoron.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Good passing and Mickey Higham is the ultimate oxymoron.'"
I do think your view on Higham is prejudiced by the fact that Wigan stupidly signed him to be something he isn't - a starting, organising hooker.
As an impact hooker Higham is probably only second behind Roby in the league for me and Roby now has to step up to fill Cunningham's shoes as the starting hooker.
Higham's problems of poor distribution and conceding of penalties tend to come when he has been left on too long and starts to tire. You only need to look at how Smith put him straight into the Wembley 17 for 2009 after being out for months to realise how much Smith rates him in the impact role. Do you claim better knowledge on Higham than Smith?
Anyway back on topic - it seems to me that the conspiracy theorists who insist Smith and Myler fell out over his Wembley omission are active again. I expect Myler to be working hard in the gym and looking forward to some one on one coaching from Johns again with a view to being a key part of a succesfull season for Warrington.
I fancy a little wager on him being Super League's top try-scorer.
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