Gone into administration....Will be wound up next week.

shame....but ineviatable.
Don't mean to sound defeatist,but it's another example of expansionism which hasn't worked. Again, a shame

It's not the end! New company already set up and RFL have 'asked' SL chairmen to ratify them back into SL. Similar to Broncos in 2004(?)

From a logistical point of view, could be a good thing....gives teams a 'free' weekend, allowing much needed rest for players, which is something a lot of coaches have always wanted.

Dont think so. Would make a mess of Millenium Weekend.

Reformed Crusaders or Wides to be allowed in.

Welsh Crusaders already set up.

Clear the debit that the Bridgend owners had built up. In fact it those that were owed money.

Wont happen. Not only will the RFL bend over backwards to ensure "crusaders" compete in SL2011, I believ their own rules will not allow Widnes to play in SL as St Helens have already registered Stobart Stadium as their home ground for 2011 and ground sharing amongst SL teams is not allowed (unless they change the rule as was proposed to allow Cas and Wakefield to share)

They better change the rules then, because from what I've heard Saint's new ground won't be ready for 2012.

Well if the above is true and ground sharing may cost Widnes the change of a SL licence, I would turn around to Saints and tell them to shove it and go find somewhere else to play next year.

That's if the above is true, of course.........

Not a chance, other sides maybe but Widnes *(Halton council) are helping out a big club their is no chance they will even consider holding that against us.

Saints ground will be ready, initially was meant to be mid next season but they ahve signed a deal with us for the full season just to make sure and also have a proper season stadium opening etc.

Really would like to see Widnes back in the superleague.

It's a Northern sport RL, and it will always be so.

Please enlighten us!

another troll, ignore him

Should have said a work college said he doesn't think it will be ready in time for 2012. Happier?

just get rid of them ive never agreed with them being let in since day 1 teams are trying season after season to get promoted they come along and get given a place its a disgrace the annoying thing is this should count against them next year but i bet cas or wakey still get given the boot

They finished second in the Championship and made the play off Grand Final. They and Salford were the two best teams outside Super League the year they were granted a Super League Licence.

For me I want us to keep a team in Wales, after all it would be a shame considering Crusaders achievements last year on the pitch and Wales earning a place in next years 4 nations! For me, accepting we are northern sport and nothing will change is not the way we should be looking... Expansion within the GB can only enhance our game, even though you can argue against that! I believe a larger pool of players will also help us internationally! Back to the Welsh, it would be a shame to lose Crusaders I think they were a success this year and long may that grow!

14 teams in SL is too many, there aren't enough clubs who can be viable. I know people talk about Widnes all the time but if Widnes come up they will struggle and struggle and I bet in a couple of years time you will hear about financial crisis at the club again and administration. Then you get calls for a Cumbrian franchise, exactly the same would happen, they would last a couple of years and then go bust. It was hardly 'unpredicted' when Celtic Crusaders came in, that they would get in this sort of mess.

The irony is that on the other side you get people saying Wakefield should be forced out of SL and lose their licence to let an expansion team/Widnes come in, but despite having a rocky ride in the last decade, Wakey have managed to keep their heads above water and survive. The only expansion team that has managed to make it without going bust is Catalans because there's money and infrastructure in France, so if we let a new team in I would be looking there at places like Toulouse, even if they aren't a huge success on the field at first at least the French clubs have got money behind them.

Celtic were always going to be another Gateshead Thunder mind you if Widnes had been allowed up instead I bet they would have ended up going bust as well. Widnes might make it up in the next year or so and it feels right to have them in the top division because of their history but it will be sad to see them come up and just be everyones whipping boys until they go bust again.

the crusaders project was doomed from the start,reduce sl to 12 teams and re-introduce promotion and relegation,easy peasy.wonder where that little halfback with the tache will end up.

Fewer teams = fewer games = higher admission charges = lower attendances

This will not help develop the game!

Fewer teams = fewer games = higher quality = better competition.

This will develop our game!

You could see this coming a week ago when the RFL fiddled the rules.

Wales Crusaders will be in SL next season.

and £25 a game to get in!!!!!

Slight exaggeration....However, I'd sooner pay more to watch quality than to pay less and watch mediocre stuff.

I don't know what Jungle Jim is on about with admission prices going up. When we had a 12 team league playing 28 rounds, from 2000 to 2006, admission prices were lower than they are now with a 14 team league playing 27 rounds.

The most important income stream for the clubs is TV money so more teams = a smaller share of TV money. The difference will have to be made up either by owners or fans.

If we had enough viable franchises to support 14 clubs who could run themselves properly and not be getting into debt or falling into administration then fair enough, but we don't. Also we don't have enough decent players to provide 14 teams. We are over reliant on importing overseas players to get the numbers up. If you didn't have the overseas players here then some of the teams at the bottom would be pretty much NL1 standard.