1st of all, we are not as good as we think we are. We were outplayed and out-thought, especially by a half-back who's been on loan for the past 2 years, and a winger who has'nt started shaving yet.

The good news is, you can't beat momentum going into 1 off games, Saints and Wigan will have a rest, we won't. Never trust a team who's coming backing off a break.

Wire to win the GF...7/1

on betfair.

ps/ that 5/4 available on Saints off scratch was like shelling peas

But didn't Briers say in an interview Wire were the best, on and off the pitch?
Also I see you are assuming Wigan have already beaten Leeds

I think leeds proved you can last 3 seasons

on that showing tonight we`ll be out next week...but at least we av the chance to put things right...reckon we might av just seen the winners tonight...but i do hope im wrong...

thee only good thing about tonight is that u lost

It's a different night and a different opposition for you. I think Smith made a few errors tonight and your pack was dominated, but it's not a 60 point hammering. Tonight was still close and a bit of composure at key times would have seen you well in it. No need to be despondant just yet.

I still dont get the play offs system so I will just ask. Who do you guys play next weekend then?

Will probably agree with that tomorrow. I am too despondant at the moment.

That's why the teams who finish 8th go on to win the GF, the momentum keeps them going



Pap result, winning would have been a hell of a lot better.

no not despondant just got a feeling saints will win it...we did`nt play well which happens i know,,got to get back on the horse for next week..we`ve done it before i.e. catalans....then probably back to saints to try and end this hoodoo,but i cant see it...hope im wrong

Unlucky wire. You just didn't play for the conditions tonight. I still think you'll make the semis as a minimum and still have as much chance of winning it as anyone.

Ok as far as understand the system.

Next weeks games will be

Lowest ranked loser (from top half games) v higest ranked winner (lower half games)

Highest rank loser (top half) v lowest rank winner (lower half)

Although if Wigan lose on Sunday that may cause a problem next weekend as I think Wigan Athletic are at home.

If I am wrong about the above somebody please correct me.

Latics Been Moved to Sunday so "If" we lose we play Friday night.

Warrington will now play winners of this weeks Hull/HullKR game at the HJ

Thanks for that, as a new St holder at latics I thought I may have to miss the city game if the Wire were playing saturday. The wire come first of course

On the way to Saints i really had a bad feeling about today. But the first 10 or so minutes i was thinking you never no maybe we could. But same old same old wire never perform against the Saints. Thats why we got beat. People might blame the ref for tonight but imo we werent good enough. I Kinda feel embarrased in a way.

Don't feel too bad fella. Plenty of teams lose at St Helens, not many win back to back Challenge Cups. It could be a lot worse. Less than 2 weeks ago we were as high as kites.

Im only 18 alot of people have experienced winning at KR , but not me, and yeh it gets to me that we get so close to saints at times but drop goals knock ons passes into touch loses games. Since 12 years old my first game at KR we got battered, but every year i say were so close at times losing by a try or a point, but i will never experience a win at KR. Just gets to me when we lose to our rivals especially the team we haven't beaten since god knows.

It was dissapointing (like all the other defeats against saints) but I'm sure TS will have the team back on their game next week and the players refocus themselves for the job ahead.

You have age on your side then. Many of us can remember the 80-0, numerous 60 point defeats and maybe 70 points. It only been in the last few years we have become closer to saints, think yourself lucky

I have seen those results i watched the game where we got beat 72-2 and i wont shock you we were winning 2-0 thanks to a penalty from John Clarke, my point is that you have experienced a win at KR, Other people the same age as me havent. Ive been the last 6-7 games at KR and haven't experienced a win like everyone else has.

Try not to lose to much sleep over it, we may still play again at KR so you may still get to see a win.

Will have to play better than tonight though

2000 times better. But we never play for 80 minutes against Saints. If we did we probably would of won. There's one last chance, Everythin is crossed

Don't worry i aint seen a Wire win either and i missed the 30-30 draw! haha

strange thread.... wire won at kr last year in the cc.