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| Mine would be:
1. Shaun Briscoe
2. Peter Fox
3. Lee Smith
4. Michael Shenton
5. Ryan Hall
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Danny McGuire
8. Adrian Morley
9. Scott Moore
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Sam Burgess
13. Kevin Sinfield
14. James Roby
15. Ben Westwood/Sean O'Loughlin
16. Gareth Carvell
17. James Graham
Missing out:
Chris Bridge
Richard Myler
Paul Sykes
Eorl Crabtree
Sean O'Loughlin/Ben Westwood
John Wilkin
Kyle Eastmond
You could make a case for all of the above to be included in the 17 apart from Paul Sykes!!!
Also I am not too confident with Peter Fox on the right wing but there doesn't seem to be any alternative unless Bridge or Eastmond are put there.
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| O'Louglin should be ahead of Westwood easily. He should be ahead of Sinfield but sinny will be in because of his organisation and kicking.
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| Quote ="WalterWizard"Mine would be:
1. Shaun Briscoe
2. Peter Fox
3. Lee Smith
4. Michael Shenton
5. Ryan Hall
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Danny McGuire
8. Adrian Morley
9. Scott Moore
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Sam Burgess
13. Kevin Sinfield
14. James Roby
15. Ben Westwood/Sean O'Loughlin
16. Gareth Carvell
17. James Graham
Missing out:
Chris Bridge
Richard Myler
Paul Sykes
Eorl Crabtree
Sean O'Loughlin/Ben Westwood
John Wilkin
Kyle Eastmond
You could make a case for all of the above to be included in the 17 apart from Paul Sykes!!!
Also I am not too confident with Peter Fox on the right wing but there doesn't seem to be any alternative unless Bridge or Eastmond are put there.'"
I'd give Lockers the nod ahead of Benny.
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| Whatever you do, don't put in a Wire player ahead of a Wiganer, the pies board will go into meltdown!!!
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| 1. Shaun Briscoe
2. Lee Smith
3. Chris Bridge
4. Michael Shenton
5. Ryan Hall
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Danny McGuire
8. Adrian Morley
9. Scott Moore
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Sam Burgess
13. Kevin Sinfield
14. James Roby
15. Sean O'Loughlin
16. Gareth Carvell
17. James Graham
Missing out:
Peter Fox
Richard Myler
Paul Sykes
Eorl Crabtree
Ben Westwood
John Wilkin
Kyle Eastmond
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| Quote ="The Punisher"Whatever you do, don't put in a Wire player ahead of a Wiganer, the pies board will go into meltdown!!!'"
Well am afraid thats just my opinion!
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| 1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Bridge
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Myler
8. Peacock
9. Moore
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Burgess (Hate picking players out of position, but is on form)
13. Sinfield
14. Roby
15. Morley
16. Carvell
17. Wilkin
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| I'm not sure on fitness first of all, Briscoe must be touch and go. I'd have played that Tom Briscoe, certainly ahead of Fox.
1. Briscoe (S).
2. Smith
3. Shenton
4. Eastmond
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Myler
8. Graham
9. Moore
10. Peacock
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. Burgess
14. Sinfield
15. Morley
16. Roby
17. O'Laughlin
I'd move Burgess to prop after the initial grunt of the first 15-20 mins, Sinfield on, and interchange Burgess there'on as a Prop.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"O'Louglin should be ahead of Westwood easily. He should be ahead of Sinfield but sinny will be in because of his organisation and kicking.'"
o`loughlin and westwood we can argue all day with that one but to put loughlin in ahead of sinfield..you`ve got to be puffing something strong...oloughlins not fit to lace sinfields boots
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"o`loughlin and westwood we can argue all day with that one but to put loughlin in ahead of sinfield..you`ve got to be puffing something strong...oloughlins not fit to lace sinfields boots'"
I'm amazed you don't get tired of posting rubbish. Take a break mate...
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I'm amazed you don't get tired of posting rubbish. Take a break mate...'"
you have your opinions i have mine...and dont class me as your mate..ok
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| Sinfield is a different class to O'Loughlin. He make's the same amount of tackles, if not more, add's an extra dimension in attack with great handling and organisation, and has the best kicking game in the whole England squad.
He is a also a great leader, and could act as a calming influence toward the young half-back's, same way as he's wrapped Burrow and McGuire in cotton wool!
For me he would be the first name on the team sheet- at loose, don't think of playing him at 6 for the sake of throwing big name's on the team sheet! We've fell for that trick a few times before!!!!
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| Briscoe
Fox
Bridge
Shenton
Hall
Tomkins
McGuire
Morley
Moore
Peacock
Burgess
Ellis
Sinfield
Roby
Crabtree
Graham
O'Loughlin
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| Shaun Briscoe
Lee Smith
Michael Shenton
Ben Westwood
Ryan Hall
Danny McGuire
Sam Thomkins
Jamie Peacock
James Roby
James Graham
Gareth Ellis
Jon Wilkin
Kevin Sinfield
Scott Moore
Adrian Morley
Sam Burgess
Chris Bridge
My reason for putting Morley on the bench is so there is a combination of youth and experience on the pitch at all times. I think we need two hookers rolling on and off in quarter periods of the game, with Chris Bridge being a suitable utility back.
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Fox
Shenton
Bridge
Briscoe
Tomkins
Myler
Morley
McGuire
Graham
Peacock
Ellis
Sinfield
Higham, O'Loughlin, Burgess, Carvell
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"Shaun Briscoe
Lee Smith
Michael Shenton
Ben Westwood
Ryan Hall
Danny McGuire
Sam Thomkins
Jamie Peacock
James Roby
James Graham
Gareth Ellis
Jon Wilkin
Kevin Sinfield
Scott Moore
Adrian Morley
Sam Burgess
Chris Bridge
My reason for putting Morley on the bench is so there is a combination of youth and experience on the pitch at all times. I think we need two hookers rolling on and off in quarter periods of the game, with Chris Bridge being a suitable utility back.'"
Right, seriously now, I know that you're entitled to your opinion, and forums are just that etc, but .......
BEN WESTWOOD AT CENTRE, ARE YOU INSANE.
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| Quote ="JWP"Right, seriously now, I know that you're entitled to your opinion, and forums are just that etc, but .......
BEN WESTWOOD AT CENTRE, ARE YOU INSANE.'"
Men in white coats will be visiting soon enough. If there was one back row forward you'd consider playing in the centres its Gareth Ellis.
Mind you the poster before that has McGuire at Hooker, Sykes at full back, Briscoe on the wing and Mick Higham on the bench, despite him not being in Che Smith's final squad.
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| I'm no expert, but I find the number of people who seem to think that a Stand Off can easily step into the Scrum Half role a bit puzzling. It was only a few weeks ago that I watched the NRL semi final on ESPN and one of the all time great Stand Offs (Lockyer) looked totally out of his depth standing in at Scrum Half.
Are the two positions so fundementally different, or is Lockyer simply not as good a half back as Tomkins or McGuire?
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Eastmond
Myler
Graham
Moore
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Sinfield
Roby
Morley
Carvell
Sinfield
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| Quote ="gibo"Briscoe
Fox
Bridge
Shenton
Hall
Eastmond
Myler
Graham
Moore
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Sinfield
Roby
Morley
Carvell
Sinfield
imo!!!!!'"
Sinfield in twice.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"I'm no expert, but I find the number of people who seem to think that a Stand Off can easily step into the Scrum Half role a bit puzzling. It was only a few weeks ago that I watched the NRL semi final on ESPN and one of the all time great Stand Offs (Lockyer) looked totally out of his depth standing in at Scrum Half.
:1yd30djnAre the two positions so fundementally different, or is Lockyer simply not as good a half back as Tomkins or McGuire?[
I suppose it depends how you play the halfbacks. if you play one as first receiver then the roles are different. However on Saturday Smith played split halfbacks one left of the ruck and one right so in essence there was no difference. You could say that Tomkins played more of the scrum halfs roll in that he actually fed the scrum.
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