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| I hope I'm wrong but with Brian Noble, Iystyn Harris and Jon Sharpe all at
Crusaders, isn't it going to be a bit crowded on the coaches bench ?
I think and hope that they will be successful in turning the club around, a strong Welsh side will be a big asset to the RL in general, but its happened before when there are too many people trying to do the same job, things can quickly go pear-shaped, ie, Agar and Sharpe at Hull.
Hope it works though.
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| Warrington had Tony Smith, Jimmy Lowes and Nigel Wright last season and Tony Smith, Jimmy Lowes and Richard Marshall for 2010 so I think that it can work at Celtic.
I hope it does anyway!!
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| Could be the coaching team to push Celtic on over the next few seasons. Nobby's won it all as a coach & saved Wigan from relegation when they were looking like NL1 material; Jon Sharp while not quite making it at Shuddersfield or Dull was a very good Assistant at Saints; Iestyn Harris will be a very good coach too, if I was a Celtic fan I'd be disappointed that he has stopped playing though, but I'm sure his influence will rub off on the younger players - and don't forget his links with Union could see more than a couple of kick & clap players heading "North" so to speak...
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| i think that line up makes for a decent coaching set up,if they pick up a few welsh union names then things could snowball for them off the pitch but i think they could continue to struggle on it regardless of whose coaching.at the end of the day you can only coach whats in front of you,if the finances are there then you get better quality in,the question is though do they have the resources.
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| Quote ="the tache is back"i think that line up makes for a decent coaching set up,if they pick up a few welsh union names then things could snowball for them off the pitch but i think they could continue to struggle on it regardless of whose coaching.at the end of the day you can only coach whats in front of you,if the finances are there then you get better quality in,the question is though do they have the resources.'"
Won't happen. The money in RU is better than league so why would they risk it?
I think they've a real tough job to get this Crusaders outfit off the ground in time for them to retain the franchise so all things being equal they should lose it next time round - but I don't think they will (expansionism an' all that).
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| Quote ="Monmouth Wire"Won't happen. The money in RU is better than league so why would they risk it?
I think they've a real tough job to get this Crusaders outfit off the ground in time for them to retain the franchise so all things being equal they should lose it next time round - but I don't think they will (expansionism an' all that).'"
noble has already stated that they are looking at local union players coming to the end of their careers,if these are high profile players then commercially they would be good buys and i would imagine a few would give it a crack if their union star status is waning like gavin henson for example,it all depends on what they have in the pot though at the end of the day.
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| Quote ="magic piano" Jon Sharp while not quite making it at Shuddersfield or Dull was a very good Assistant at Saints; Iestyn Harris will be a very good coach too'"
Out of interest how do we know if someone was a good assistant or not? Sharp was on the Saints coaching staff when they were probably at their peak in terms of quality players, was he a good assistant here, and a not so good assistant at Hull in 2009....?
As for not quite making it at Huddersfield, I think Sharp deserves a bit of credit for what he achieved there, he took teh club on a level from where Tony Smith had left it. Smith told Hudds that he wasn't interested in renewing his contract at the end of 2003, before he got the Leeds job lined up, he was saying the club needed more investment etc. So credit to Sharp, he was willing to take on a challenge that Smith didn't want, and he made Hudds competitive, cleaned up their discipline (which had been bad under Smith, and went bad again after Sharp left), got them to be a playoff club and took them to a Challenge Cup final, all things which would have been unheard of even during the Smith era. But now Nathan Brown has done that, its as though he's achieved miracles which have never been done before! Sharp did it as well mainly through a combination of bringing on home grown players through the Academy, and signing talented British players at other clubs who were losing their way.
I like Jon Sharp, he seems like a bright bloke in RL terms, and he did bring a professional set up to Hudds, I remember both Michael De Vere and Ben Roarty commenting that their facilities and training set up was closely modelled on how NRL clubs work. I reckon if Sharp got a coaching job at a bigger SL club with the finance to sign top players, he would win trophies.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Out of interest how do we know if someone was a good assistant or not? Sharp was on the Saints coaching staff when they were probably at their peak in terms of quality players, was he a good assistant here, and a not so good assistant at Hull in 2009....?
As for not quite making it at Huddersfield, I think Sharp deserves a bit of credit for what he achieved there, he took teh club on a level from where Tony Smith had left it. Smith told Hudds that he wasn't interested in renewing his contract at the end of 2003, before he got the Leeds job lined up, he was saying the club needed more investment etc. So credit to Sharp, he was willing to take on a challenge that Smith didn't want, and he made Hudds competitive, cleaned up their discipline (which had been bad under Smith, and went bad again after Sharp left), got them to be a playoff club and took them to a Challenge Cup final, all things which would have been unheard of even during the Smith era. But now Nathan Brown has done that, its as though he's achieved miracles which have never been done before! Sharp did it as well mainly through a combination of bringing on home grown players through the Academy, and signing talented British players at other clubs who were losing their way.
I like Jon Sharp, he seems like a bright bloke in RL terms, and he did bring a professional set up to Hudds, I remember both Michael De Vere and Ben Roarty commenting that their facilities and training set up was closely modelled on how NRL clubs work. I reckon if Sharp got a coaching job at a bigger SL club with the finance to sign top players, he would win trophies.'"
It begs the question; why hasn't he then? Sounds like an ideal candidate for Wigan. One thing that does strike me about Sharp is that he iis a blamer, pretty much like Cull in that respect. When it goes wrong he never took responsibility.
As for Celtic, I think they have it spot on. A natural progression of coaches. If Nobby leaves after a period of time, Sharp takes overall responsibilty, Harris can learn from both, making him ready for the head coach's role eventually.
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