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| I've been debating this since saturday now. I know hes talented won us the game etc. But I cant help thinking this should be his last season with us.
Am I on my own here?
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| No. I'm here too.
Briers' situation is a simple one for mine; if a replacement, who is better can be sought, then let him go. If not, give him another year.
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| Agreed, who is likely to be available though? It may involve paying a transfer fee, as I'm not sure there are many stand offs out of contract at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"No. I'm here too.
Briers' situation is a simple one for mine; if a replacement, who is better can be sought, then let him go. If not, give him another year.'"
Would have to be a good replacement mind. An established stand off.
One equal to the Lee Briers that carried the team on his back in 2002
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| The good point of all this is that we do not need to decide right now.
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| If we actually reach and win a final this season it would be utterly ridiculous to replace him. There is a clear change in him and his attitude and he played as a lone half-back on Saturday as Monaghan was completely anonymous.
You can't doubt his passion and commitment to the club; look at his reaction as the drop-goal goes over.
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| If Monas sticks his tail between his legs and returns to Australia, then I would prefer we keep Briers for another 12 months just to give a new Scrum Half (or Stand Off) time to 'bed in'. If Monas stays then, assuming we can find someone better (which I think will be far easier said than done), it would probably be the right time to say goodbye.
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| Monas might have been "anonymous" in attack, but the lad can't half tackle above his weight.
If only he would accept that he is a better hooker than half back.
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| Quote ="Richeastender"Monas might have been "anonymous" in attack, but the lad can't half tackle above his weight.
If only he would accept that he is a better hooker than half back.'"
I don't think we signed and/or need him for his defensive qualities.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I don't think we signed and/or need him for his defensive qualities.'"
He set up V anderson
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| We have won 7 of our last 10 games against SL opposition, Briers was injured for three of the 10 - no prizes for guessing which ones.
I just don't understand why everyone wants to see him gone.
If Smith is as good a coach as everyione seems to think he is, then he should be able to keep him focused and ensure we get the best from him - and that best is better than most half backs playing RL right now.
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| Quote ="Antro"We have won 7 of our last 10 games against SL opposition, Briers was injured for three of the 10 - no prizes for guessing which ones.
I just don't understand why everyone wants to see him gone.
If Smith is as good a coach as everyione seems to think he is, then he should be able to keep him focused and ensure we get the best from him - and that best is better than most half backs playing RL right now.'"
Ahem ... Cos some fans would have him stay till the age of 40?
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| I despair ........ only Warrington fans after Saturdays game won by Lee Briers (like it or not whatever Morley And carvell did it meant nothing without Briers) would start discussing him leaving.....
I swear people dont go to watch Warrington anymore not because weve been crap but because you get tarred as being slightly retarded in the mind.....
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| Quote ="Antro"We have won 7 of our last 10 games against SL opposition, Briers was injured for three of the 10 - no prizes for guessing which ones.
I just don't understand why everyone wants to see him gone.
If Smith is as good a coach as everyione seems to think he is, then he should be able to keep him focused and ensure we get the best from him - and that best is better than most half backs playing RL right now.'"
Good Point Well Put
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Saturdays game won by Lee Briers (like it or not whatever Morley And carvell did it meant nothing without Briers)'"
I see your point but would Briers have kicked a drop-goal from 70 meters
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| Quote ="BOBBIE_IS_SUPERMAN"Ahem ... Cos some fans would have him stay till the age of 40?'"
If he carries on playing the way he is then let him stay until he’s 40. I find it strange that when older people are good at something we are so quick to want to push them on and make them retire. Age is only a number and if he keeps himself fit and in good shape why can’t he continue? The guy is by far our most influential and talented player with the rugby ball and in my opinion should be retained for at least one more year. However, I’m sure TS will asses the situation and make a balanced decision on who else is available out there.
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| Quote ="BOBBIE_IS_SUPERMAN"Ahem ... Cos some fans would have him stay till the age of 40?'"
He'll be 31 this month for God's sake, in the same month Morley will turn 32 ....... Hicks is 32 already and Rauhihi is still plodding around at 35
Vinne, Clarkey, Johnson and Monas better hurry up and get their retirement plans sorted as well by this measure .......
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I see your point but would Briers have kicked a drop-goal from 70 meters
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What is the relevance of that?
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| Quote ="Antro"He'll be 31 this month for God's sake, in the same month Morley will turn 32 ....... Hicks is 32 already and Rauhihi is still plodding around at 35
Vinne, Clarkey, Johnson and Monas better hurry up and get their retirement plans sorted as well by this measure .......'"
You must be daft if you cant See Lee isnt the player he was two years ago. Nevermind 5
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"What is the relevance of that?'"
We needed Carvell and Morley to get us into a position so that Briers could have a decent effort of a drop-goal, without those two Briers probably wouldn't have got near but apparently it's irrelevant what Morley and Carvell done because they didn't score the point that won the match.
Unbelievable
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"We needed Carvell and Morley to get us into a position so that Briers could have a decent effort of a drop-goal, without those two Briers probably wouldn't have got near but apparently it's irrelevant what Morley and Carvell done because they didn't score the point that won the match.
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I don't think anybody has disregarded the efforts of Carvell and Morley in particular.
Look at it another way. If Briers wasn't there, who would you have put your money on to slot it over?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I don't think anybody has disregarded the efforts of Carvell and Morley in particular.
Look at it another way. If Briers wasn't there, who would you have put your money on to slot it over?'"
Without Briers you would have to turn to Bridge and Monaghan who have both dropped goals in the past but they would still need to be within 40 meters to have a chance of putting it over, to say that what Morley and Carvell did meant nothing without Briers is absolutely ludicrous, we may as well say that without Morley we wouldn't have scored our final try and may have lost the game.
It was a team effort with the forwards doing the most work, that shouldn't be forgotten or put in a bad light just because one man scored the winning point.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Without Briers you would have to turn to Bridge and Monaghan who have both dropped goals in the past but they would still need to be within 40 meters to have a chance of putting it over, to say that what Morley and Carvell did meant nothing without Briers is absolutely ludicrous, we may as well say that without Morley we wouldn't have scored our final try and may have lost the game.
It was a team effort with the forwards doing the most work, that shouldn't be forgotten or put in a bad light just because one man scored the winning point.'"
Really, when was that then?
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| Quote ="mark_m"Really, when was that then?'"
Monaghan V Hull KR away last year, Bridge V Harlequins away this year (Reserves).
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Monaghan V Hull KR away last year, Bridge V Harlequins away this year (Reserves).'"
Crikey you are a mine of information . I honestly don't remember that Monaghan one and I am surprised.
Kicking a DG is a VERY difficult skill though especially under so much pressure and I wouldn't have wanted anyone but Briers attempting it.
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