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| Reading the rugby league news today it seems that Wakey are suffering a winger shortage.
With Damien Blanch out for the season and 2 other wingers, Murphy ( dislocated shoulder ) and Matt Peterson, out for at least another couple of weeks would it be a good decision by Warringtonto allow him to go out on loan to another SL club, if asked.
Bradford decided it was a good idea by letting Halley go to Wakefield earlier in the season rather than leaving him for months in the reserves.
Wigan also have allowed Goulding to go to Salford ( although freeing up some salary space may also have had a bearing on this decision)
I think that it would be a good move for Penny. He certainly cannot be developing fully as a player in the academy week in week out. Let him go to another club for a couple of months, let him make mistakes at another club but then hopefully he will learn from them without being in the pressurised environment at Warrington where he is still believed by some to be the greatest find of the past 30 years.
It could just be the making of him as a player.
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| Yes we should let him out on loan IF we don't intend to play him, but would it be better if he went to a NL1 club?
Penny could go two ways. Either he will one day be a major star of SL or he will be on the RL scrapheap and working in a dead end job at somewhere like Total Fitness.
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| Kear would be a very good coach for him to develop. Plus its a chance for him to shine in a Super League club.
Should actively seek to give players further chances in other teams, if it will help them develop.
See Scott Moore, Goulding et all.
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| Quote ="The Casual Des"Yes we should let him out on loan IF we don't intend to play him, but would it be better if he went to a NL1 club?
Penny could go two ways. Either he will one day be a major star of SL or he will be on the RL scrapheap and working in a dead end job at somewhere like Total Fitness.'"
Why would that be a dead end job?
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Why would that be a dead end job?'"
You work there?
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| No not at all.. I just think it's a bit innapropriate to say "dead end job" especially in this climate.
Afterall, isn't Des a postman?
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| In answer to the thread title, YES!
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| Quote ="Wirefan"No not at all.. I just think it's a bit innapropriate to say "dead end job" especially in this climate.
Afterall, isn't Des a postman?'"
I agree and definately in the current financial climate, 1/10 more of people will be out of job by Christmas, waahey!
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| Quote ="Wirefan"No not at all.. I just think it's a bit innapropriate to say "dead end job" especially in this climate.
Afterall, isn't Des a postman?'"
yes but he doesnt deliver to Cul-de-Sacs......
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| Watching the reserves on Saturday I thought the same thing about Penny. Time out on loan to another club would help him develop. Playing in the reserves certainly isn't going to help him much as the standard is so much lower than SL.
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| At the risk of Mark shooting me with a double barrelled shotgun for this:
I believe Penny isn't up to SL level yet (Tony Smith obviously believes the same thing) and I think if he went on loan to Wakey, or any other SL club, it'd just make it more obvious to everyone.
I firmly believe that if he were to go on loan, it should be to someone in the Championship. Widnes for example. Players aren't bubble wrapped as much as they are in SL and he'd learn a more physical game and come back a hell of a lot stronger, both physically and mentally.
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| [size=200yes[/sizeSend him out asap .Lets face it if he was not born in Warrington nobody would want him here as he has not got any rugby talent bar a little pace and he has been chased down a few times so he isn't the fastest either release him I say !
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"At the risk of Mark shooting me with a double barrelled shotgun for this:
I believe Penny isn't up to SL level yet (Tony Smith obviously believes the same thing) and I think if he went on loan to Wakey, or any other SL club, it'd just make it more obvious to everyone.
I firmly believe that if he were to go on loan, it should be to someone in the Championship. Widnes for example. Players aren't bubble wrapped as much as they are in SL and he'd learn a more physical game and come back a hell of a lot stronger, both physically and mentally.'"
It's not obvious at all - it may just be that he prefers Johnson, Riley and Hicks as a back 3. If he did it's hardly surprising at the moment.
I'm undecided as to whether a loan is a good idea - shipping him out in the formative stages of Smith's reign might see him miss out on some good messages.
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| I wouldn't mind him in our first team now and again. Unlike previous seasons we have not had a great deal of injuries so his chance may not come. If this is the case then it would be great to see him out on loan at somewhere like Wakefield
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| No.
Everyone seems to think he wants coaching more. We have a good coach. What is a spell of being coached by a NL1 coach going to do for him.
I notice nobody lambasting Johnson for dropping that bomb on Sunday for the first Giants try.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"No not at all.. I just think it's a bit innapropriate to say "dead end job" especially in this climate.
Afterall, isn't Des a postman?'"
Yes well I'm a Postal Delivery Driver not a foot soldier!!!
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"At the risk of Mark shooting me with a double barrelled shotgun for this:
I believe Penny isn't up to SL level yet (Tony Smith obviously believes the same thing) and I think if he went on loan to Wakey, or any other SL club, it'd just make it more obvious to everyone.
I firmly believe that if he were to go on loan, it should be to someone in the Championship. Widnes for example. Players aren't bubble wrapped as much as they are in SL and he'd learn a more physical game and come back a hell of a lot stronger, both physically and mentally.'"
Smith just agrees that he isn't in his plans at the moment, I'm guessing he think's he's up to SL level, just as he did at inernational level when he drafted him into the train on squad, can't understand the hating on Penny...very strange.
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| Quote ="Mark"Smith just agrees that he isn't in his plans at the moment, I'm guessing he think's he's up to SL level, just as he did at inernational level when he drafted him into the train on squad, can't understand the hating on Penny...very strange.'"
I possibly should have stated that Smith doesn't think Penny is up to playing in SL just yet, otherwise he'd be pushing for a place in the squad, which he doesn't seem to be doing.
I don't hate Penny, I believe he has the potential to be a star player, I just don't think he's there yet.
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| Let him go on loan i say, although he isn't good enough for first team he needs more experience and it's going to be a slow process in the reserves, so yes on loan for me and anywhere will do.
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"I possibly should have stated that Smith doesn't think Penny is up to playing in SL just yet, otherwise he'd be pushing for a place in the squad, which he doesn't seem to be doing.
I don't hate Penny, I believe he has the potential to be a star player, I just don't think he's there yet.'"
He's our best attacking weapon, he was fine last game he played, he'll be a fine player for years to come at this club.
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| Quote ="Mark"=redHe's our best attacking weapon, he was fine last game he played, he'll be a fine player for years to come at this club.'"
You being serious mark He has speed granted but this doesn't make him our best attacking weapon, Hicks, Riley and even Bridge would go in front of Penny when were talking about overall value in attack and defence surely.
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"[size=200yes[/sizeSend him out asap .Lets face it if he was not born in Warrington nobody would want him here as he has not got any rugby talent bar a little pace and he has been chased down a few times so he isn't the fastest either release him I say !'"
Dear oh dear, try watching his tries again. Most have taken some scoring against some of the best players in SL.
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| Quote ="Wirral Wire"No.
Everyone seems to think he wants coaching more. We have a good coach. What is a spell of being coached by a NL1 coach going to do for him.
I notice nobody lambasting Johnson for dropping that bomb on Sunday for the first Giants try.'"
Exactly!
Why let him go somewhere where he will get inferior coaching?
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| Quote ="Inside Knowledge"You being serious mark
He has speed granted but this doesn't make him our best attacking weapon, Hicks, Riley and even Bridge would go in front of Penny when were talking about overall value in attack and defence surely.'"
None of our players could score some of the tries he has...NONE.
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| Quote ="Mark"None of our players could score some of the tries he has...NONE.'"
I'm struggling to think of anyone in SL.
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