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| To be fair the club should never have put Lowes in that position in the first place.
Fair play to him for giving it a go, you cant criticise him for that.
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| Quote ="Lowes Out Hanley In"To be fair the club should never have put Lowes in that position in the first place.
Fair play to him for giving it a go, you cant criticise him for that.'"
e's got bouncebackability
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| Quote ="The Sun"Part of my remit will be to get Jimmy back up to being a head coach if that's what he wants.'"
Does that mean we're gonna end up with Jimmy one way or the other?
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"icon_eek.gif
Does that mean we're gonna end up with Jimmy one way or the other?'"
He'll come back to haunt us at another club I feel
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"icon_eek.gif
Does that mean we're gonna end up with Jimmy one way or the other?'"
Smith had a similar remit to bring on daryl powell for the Rhinos - you have nothing to worry about.
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| To some extent I feel for Lowes, it was a knee jerk appointing him the first place. As we tried to approach Smith ahead of giving Lowes another year, he was always going to be a stop gap rather than long term, merely keeping the seat warm for Smith or someone like that.
I'm glad the club managed in the end to get thier fingers out of their bottoms and appoint Smith. Hopefully the anger towards Lowes will settle down and under Tony Smith he will become a better coach for Warrington.
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| Quote ="Never Mighty Wires"To some extent I feel for Lowes, it was a knee jerk appointing him the first place. As we tried to approach Smith ahead of giving Lowes another year, he was always going to be a stop gap rather than long term, merely keeping the seat warm for Smith or someone like that.
I'm glad the club managed in the end to get thier fingers out of their bottoms and appoint Smith. Hopefully the anger towards Lowes will settle down and under Tony Smith he will become a better coach for Warrington.'"
Exactly. Lowes clearly wasn't ready for the pressures of SL and under Smith he will learn his trade and learn it well. If, in two and a half years time Smith has/if forced to leave then I think I will be happier with Lowes in charge.
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| Tell you what Jimmy; hand in your resignation then.
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| Glad he wasnt sacked............
now noble could still be the first....
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| So much for taking any decision the club make on the chin then
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| Quote ="steviewire"So much for taking any decision the club make on the chin then
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| Suck it up or hit the bricks.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Suck it up or hit the bricks.'"
More like sulk it up.
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| To be fair, Lowes could have spat the dummy and walked today. The guy wears his heart on his sleeve, that's evident. Whilst he may not be the greatest head coach right now, i did admire his honesty throughout even if that was blind in the latter stages.
I would imagine it takes a lot of balls to sit in that press conference and accept that your "not quite ready" or even worse "not quite good enough" yet agree to stay on.
I also think the press reports covering the players who state their admiration for Lowes and his approach are true. He seems like very much "a man's man", a protector, which is a good quality to have in sport. I just think he got some of the fundamental things wrong, like the lack of pre-season matches and general match tactics/structures.
He also lacked the proffessionalism in front of the camera that many look to for signs of control.
The club shouldn't have put him in this situation in the first place and it was a knee jerk reaction to a half decent winning run in my opinion.
Tony Smith joining Lowes is the best all round move and the club should be congratulated. It just feels like someone has finally turned the lights on at Warrington.
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Out of his depth by a mile, got a contract till the end of the year then................ bye bye baby, baby good bye'"
Listening to the interviews throughout the day and on the radio tonight I seriously feel that the club and Tony Smith want Jimmy to stay. I suppose its up to Jimmy now, his future is in own hands, give 100% to our club and learn from an experienced coach for the next few years or ship out.
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| Whatever the club's good intentions, Lowes will - I believe - be gone sooner rather than later.
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| I'm not convinced he will go. When he looks at it after he has got over the disappointment has died down, and his pride has recovered from the bashing it has taken, he will hopefully see this as a good thing.
He has worked for Smith before as assistant, so hopefully their relationship is already sound, and the club could have been ruthless and sacked him.
Hopefully he will realise he has lots to learn, and he will be working for one of the best around.
I do feel for him slightly, as he has had to go through this learning curve in public, in a very demanding position, but it is just one of those things. I'm sure nobody thought things would be as bad as they have turned out, and the club had to act.
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| Why, after all the vitriol aimed at James Lowes over the last few weeks, do people seem happy to keep him at the club in an assistant role? If the guy doesn't know what he is doing as most people said then he doesn't know what he is doing. Simple as that. And isn't Nigel Wright asssitant coach? Why are we paying two people to do one job. There is no place for sentiment and feeling sorry for people in top level professional sport and we should have let him go. I know he is out of contract at the end of season and probably won't be staying, but we have been a bit of a soft touch in my opinion. He has been an assistant before and hasn't seemed to learn much and if he feels he is ready to be a head coach he should try and find a job in NL1 to prove himself first.
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| I think most people are quite willing to give Lowes a chance and accept that Wire's poor form was down to his lack of experience and learning, rather than him just being a bad coach. For someone like Tony Smith to say he thinks Lowes could be great with the right training is a pretty decent endorsement.
As assisstant coach he makes no major decisions on strategy, squad etc. Although he does get a say Smith will have the final word.
Although I never rated Jimmy and *really* didn't want him as our head coach, I can accept that his (and the team's) poor performance came down to a complete lack of experience and being put into a situation he never should have been by the club, something which was said many times on here even before we knew about Tony Smith.
I think the way to look at Jimmy is in the same way as Chris Reiley. Some people think he's just not good enough and never will be. Some people think that with the right framework and support he could be a top player. Lowes is very similar, it depends which side of the fence you're sitting on. With Smith as his mentor he could become a very good coach. Plus his contract only runs to the end of the year, he may well choose to move on then. I think Smith as top dog with Lowes in an assisstant role is the best outcome for all concerned. At the end of the day, better Lowes stay and another young British coach is developed and moves on rather than sacked and disappears into obscurity to be replaced by yet another Aussie coach.
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| Lowes is a good coach, but is not a good head coach.
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"I think most people are quite willing to give Lowes a chance and accept that Wire's poor form was down to his lack of experience and learning, rather than him just being a bad coach. For someone like Tony Smith to say he thinks Lowes could be great with the right training is a pretty decent endorsement.
As assisstant coach he makes no major decisions on strategy, squad etc. Although he does get a say Smith will have the final word.
Although I never rated Jimmy and *really* didn't want him as our head coach, I can accept that his (and the team's) poor performance came down to a complete lack of experience and being put into a situation he never should have been by the club, something which was said many times on here even before we knew about Tony Smith.
I think the way to look at Jimmy is in the same way as Chris Reiley. Some people think he's just not good enough and never will be. Some people think that with the right framework and support he could be a top player. Lowes is very similar, it depends which side of the fence you're sitting on. With Smith as his mentor he could become a very good coach. Plus his contract only runs to the end of the year, he may well choose to move on then. I think Smith as top dog with Lowes in an assisstant role is the best outcome for all concerned. At the end of the day, better Lowes stay and another young British coach is developed and moves on rather than sacked and disappears into obscurity to be replaced by yet another Aussie coach.'"
Good post.
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