Opposition coach team talk for last 4 years. “Wire will come out all guns blazing and likely make a couple of good chances early on. BUT if we can keep them out for 20 minutes they will fall apart.”
I think that covers it.

It’s a sad state when really, if you slow the ruck and don’t let Ashton have any space, we’re beaten. Not to be defeatist, but that’s it really.

He coached Leeds, were they not a big club?

He did, and he left Smith with a pretty decent team that went on to win a grand final. He pretty much overhauled that squad didn’t too, didn’t he? It was his first gig of course.

Didn’t overhaul the squad at all no, wasn’t there long enough. What he did do was put faith in the youngsters. Made Sinny captain at 19 or 20 which was a big call. Also promoted Maggsy and Burrow. We all know what happened then and he does deserve some credit. However we all believe it took Tony Smith to lift us into the winners enclosure…..

None of them are even close to even a a half d Cooper

Then Cooper isn’t as big a problem as is being made out then.

Did you see the heart and desire he showed in stopped Wakefield's winning try?

Drop him then

Didn`t realise that posters on here could do that?

oh yeah, its next to the report and ignore facilities that no one on here seems to know about either.

I read in context, you’d see quite clearly that it refers to earlier comments re: Cooper being a bad Apple/disruptive influence/prioritising private businesses yet still being picked week on week.

For clarity, IF he is, as above, not considered suitable to stay with the club, then why is he picked week? Joe Bullock was in the squad, he is a Powell signing, why not play him over the bad apple?

Have you ever watched Joe Bullock play?

Is Cooper a bad apple or have fans added 2 and 2 to get 5? Powell doesn't see him as part of his future plans, Cooper is moving on. No big deal. We do need him for the rest of this year, though.

We’re hitting the same point. Cooper is a great prop, we have a great prop, but we are letting him go and replacing him with lesser players.

The justification to date is that he isn’t committed fully, or is a bad apple. If that is true he shouldn’t be in the team. If it’s NOT true, I would like to understand why we are not offering a contract, of any value, to our only great prop.

We let go our other great prop and replace him with Bullock, who isn’t good enough to get in the 17, so you’ll understand my scepticism when trusting the current regime with recruiting front rowers.

I think most seem to have come to the conclusion, rightly or wrongly, that the squad is full of bad apples and we’ve got a militant set of players with a chip on their shoulder.

Nothing to do with actual ability, coaching, team selection, or tactics, just a squad full of bad apples.

Cooper to agent “any chance you can get me out of here fast? I’ve been running my tripes to water and am being slagged off as a “bad apple”. Thanks”

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics in 2017 when we ended up the in the middle 8's?

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics in 2019 when we went on a losing streak of 6 games when we had given up after winning the cup?

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics that caused us to exit the play offs at the first hurdle 2019, 2020 and 2021?

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics that caused a player to turn up to an international airport without a passport?

Just needed a couple of top class props to supplement the efforts of the over used and flogged Hill and Cooper, didn’t we? That seemed the general consensus around the 2019, 2020 and 2021 seasons, didn’t it?

As for 2017, well Tony Smith was the problem then wasn’t he? The day to day coaching done by Agar while Smith took a back seat. Stale, needed time out of the game and to recharge the batteries, didn’t he?

Props. Buy some props to help Hill and Cooper they begged for so long. The club failed to deliver on that front year after year. Now we’ve gone from being there or there abouts, to relegation fodder and it’s all down to attitude, application and a bunch of bad apples.

You wanted Smith gone around that time too didn’t you? So yes, I guess you could say it was to do with the coaching side of things back then that were the issues if you want to be consistent in your criticisms of Smith from back then.

Yes I did. I saw we were drifting further away from winning a GF rather than moving towards it.

I wanted Smith to leave from 2017 onwards (7 years in the job, should have gone earlier really)

Price from October 2019 onwards (2 years in the job)

Powell has been in post 16 games.

And we've played well twice, but only won one of those games.

I wouldn't sack him by the way.

But, Smith won about 10 of his first 16, including a cup run. Powell won 3 in a row in February, then TWO since. It’s June.

#KissKamOut