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| IF Brett was 23 same as Sam then I would take Brett.
Brett has the better temperament joins the line and links up better than Sam does and Brett's goal kicking is worth about 10 points each game.
But Sam is a fantastic talent and he continues to develop then when his 3 years of not talking to any other clubs is up then we might have a look at him.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hodgson has been terrible every time I've seen him this season. I take it from the fact this post exists that he played well against Catalans?'"
Hodgson has never been 'terrible' - just occasionaly he falls short of his own high standards.
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| Brett Hodgson has had a lot of niggling injuries in recent times which is bound to have effected his form, anyway onto the question from the O/P.
They are 2 totally different players and both contribute in different ways.
Brett Hodgson is a great organiser, passer and he reads the game very well.
Sam Tomkins is the most dangerous broken field runner in our game, give him half a gap and he's gone.
Brett Hodgson would be better compared to Brent Webb as they both do very similar roles and play a similar type of game.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Tomkins is obviously supremely talented. The trouble is that, like many top English players, his development is in danger of reaching a plateau. Teams are now not only aware of what he is going to do, but they're finding ways to stop him doing it too. Even Featherstone dealt with him pretty effectively the other week.
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Not being daft here, but they haven't found out a way of stopping him. Unless you count having a shocking pitch in which any back is going to struggle to run anywhere! He's got 10 tries and 15 assists this year already!
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| Have to agree with inside_man here, just because you can predict what Tomkins is going to do doesn't mean you can stop him.
Everybody knew by about 1986 that Shaun Edwards was going to pop up on the inside of any move and run in under the sticks and he was still doing it 10 years later.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Not being daft here, but they haven't found out a way of stopping him. Unless you count having a shocking pitch in which any back is going to struggle to run anywhere! He's got 10 tries and 15 assists this year already!'"
I'd have Sam at Warrington tomorrow. Superb talent, just at the wrong club.
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| Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Katrina"Also, Sam is getting wrapped up so easily now. I'd really like us to try him back in the halves so he can use his creativity more rather than getting wrapped up nearly every time he joins the line.'"
Quote ="Famous"If he passed it a little more he wouldnt be as predictable. There are so many times when we have a overlap and he steps and tries to go himself. If he varied his play more it would work more often when he does go himself.'"
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| Quote ="RLIMR"Although they play the same position, they are two very different players. Hodgson is a world class ball handler, tomkins is a world class open field runner with majestic footwork and blistering pace.'"
It makes you realise how good Slater is.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"It makes you realise how good Slater is.'"
World cup finals notwithstanding.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hodgson has been terrible every time I've seen him this season. I take it from the fact this post exists that he played well against Catalans?'" Have you been to all Warringtons Games this season Home and Away????Just so you can give a more detailed Assesment....Just saying like.
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| I'd have them both and introduce a new concept of 'Interchange Full-Back'
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"It makes you realise how good Slater is.'"
Exactly, Slater being a combination of the two.
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| Quote ="RLIMR"Exactly, Slater being a combination of the two.'"
Slater doesn't kick goals
But to be fair, he does everything else
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| Quote ="RLIMR"Exactly, Slater being a combination of the two.'"
My sentiments exactly.
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| I both hate and like Tompkins. Anyone who doesn't enjoy seeing him with the ball in broken play doesnāt share my love of the game. His attitude does seem to be improving as he matures, Iām seeing less of his petulant cheating bar steward side, although itās not gone all together.
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| Quote ="Big Ask"I'd have them both and introduce a new concept of 'Interchange Full-Back''"
leeds did that 14 years ago
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| Long term Tomkins may be shifted to half-back to accomodate Matty Russell.
This all depends on the coaches willingness to move Tomkins, and Russell's continued development.
And no i don't rate Hodgson, but lets leave it at that.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hodgson has been terrible every time I've seen him this season. I take it from the fact this post exists that he played well against Catalans?'"
Lionel Messi has been dog everytime I've seen him this season,
I'm just off to a football forum to show my superior knowledge to Barcelona fans who think he's quite good.. do you think i'll pull it off or is there a chance i may look a bit of a cock.....
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| Quote ="shambawangy"
And no i don't rate Hodgson, but lets leave it at that.'"
i'll take a stab in the dark ...............he's never played for Wigan so....= Shit
please refer to my first post on why this is a waste of time.....
admittedly I wasnt anticipating the sintellens fan from Warrington to chip in with his rubbish but i'll be better prepared next time
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Slater doesn't kick goals
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But he plays in the same team as Cameron Smith. I bet he could kick goals (as well as resolve world financial crisis, bring peace to the middle east and calm down Joey Barton), it's just that nobody has asked him to.
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| great thread this.
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| As far as I'm aware Tomkins has more assists than tries so far this season and yet people make out like he doesn't have a great passing game. His killer pass and all round passing are fantastic as well as his running skills.
Hodgson was a great great player and still is a very good player.
If you asked me now, I'd take Tomkins, but if it was Hodgson in his prime vs Sam now, then Hodgson.
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| I've seen Hodgson in his prime, and I'd take Tomkins every time.
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| Both are very good players and Tomkins could become a great.
I really hope he doesn't go to Yawnion but if they offer him a mountain of cash and chance to play in front of 80k blazer badged toffs, I think he will go
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