Saints have played in what was a division 2, although never been relegated.....I think.

Incorrect again. The only time Saints 'AND LEEDS' have not played in the same top division is when the league was split into Lancashire and Yorkshire Leagues. Interestingly, Castleford were the only other team in this elite group until they were relegated a few seasons ago.

P.S. The split occured during the first world war. At the same time 12 aside rugby was introduced due to a lack of players.

Saints have been relegated (in the early years of Rugby League) They would also have been relegated again but RL went to one division.
It's surprising how many Saints fans don't know their clubs history.

No im not

Now Now Rogues. Don't tell lies!!!

Saints fan in "talking s**t" shocker......

The last club to have been relegated for the 1st time in their history was not Castleford but Widnes in 2005.
And a bit unfairly too.

I think Cas saved Widnes from relegation the season before when Cas slipped up and got beat by Wakefield on the last day.

I'll tell you what we'll do. If Saints have never been relegated I will give £25 to the Steve Prescott foundation, if they have you give £25 to joining jack. Is that o.k.

I suggest you check with Sadfish who runs this site and is part of the Saints heritage site.

Rouges would know, he was in Huddersfield when the games split

Now you're wrong.

Saints were relegated earlier than that, in 1900-1901 season we failed to win promotion into the first set of national leagues, and in 1901-1902 season finished 3rd in Lancashire to be promoted into what was division 1. However we tanked and finished 2nd to bottom and were relegated. We were promoted again straight away the following season but once again did poorly in division 1 - but saved on a technicality to not be relegated again.

This is the only time I think (maybe someone who was there can confirm - rogues I'm looking at you

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Well done young man. I believe the second relegation was avoided as the RL went to one division at the end of that season. There is (was) a superb reference site on t'internet but I didn't save the url when I bought my new computer.

So the only two clubs still in existence who have never been relegated, to my knowledge, are Leeds and Warrington.

So leeds haven't been down??

Leeds have never been relegated like Warrington, but unlike Warrington, Leeds haven't spent their entire time in the top division. They only joined the new Northern League the year AFTER it was formed.

Thanks WF111
In which case I will therefore refer the honorable gentleman, topsaint, to the statement I made earlier.

I ought to have said 1895. 1879 being the year wire were founded.

After some deeper research (I don't trust Wiki) it would appear I was incorrect. My sincere apologies to rubber duckie.



P.S. I hate it when Rogues is right.

Your a big man top saint.

here it is this particular year was superb reference..

[urlhttp://www.onwardhornetsonward.co.uk/tables/page88.htm[/url

Perhaps you should have done your research first before accusing people of lying.

Thanks for you research RG.

Lying is a bit strong though.
He had a difference of opinion because he was unaware of the history.
With your help he was educated and held his hand up and in doing so revealed his embarrassment to you especially.
Takes a big man to admit rather than retreat into silence.
It's not always right to make another swipe after such a gesture.

No, he accused me of lying.


And his apology was to you.

But maybe you have point and it's now better put to bed.

Interesting thread. I was not aware of the 1900 relegation for Saints either. So educated here too.

Just on a side issue from the VT, there is a legal point being made that a club only exsists until it goes into administration. So from that Bradford v 6.0 have not been relegated either as well as Leeds and Wakefield v (not sure what number they are on).

That's what I believed to have been true.
Wire and Cas.