It didn't take long for Saints trolls arrogance to come back to this board...
I have to say I enjoyed the last 5 years of peace and quiet..

There are far too many deluded on here

Half backs alongside, if not the worst in Super League - Whether that's O'Brien and Myler or O'Brien and Bridge. Smith and the club are totally to blame for allowing this to happen. The club knew Briers was gone December 2014. May have been too late for last season, but to to go into this season with no controlling half is scandalous. This is one of the key reasons that we will always be there or thereabouts, but not quite winning the GF

Kicking game that is at best NW Counties standard - 7/9 out of 9 kicks in first half down Saints players throat, allowing 20 metres gain before the line gets there, compared to Saints, who had our back 3 scrambling about for a bobbling ball as it should be

Most worrying thing is the fact that our vaunted pack got smashed, dominated and obliterated from minute 1 to minute 80. Daryl Clark playing like a man who a) Doesn't want to be here and b) Just waiting for the contract to run out so he can either get back to Cas, or to NRL.

Sick to the back teeth of Smith saying we learn lessons, when we patently don't.

Yes the CC wins have been great, but most fans want a GF

Still it will only get worse once Smith concedes he'll not get us to win a GF and leaves us with the joy of Richard Agar - Can't wait

If I'm over-inflating our pack's performance - you are doing likewise insofar as the overall team performance is concerned. Cunningham should quite rightly be asking why Saints didn't capitalise on complete midfield dominance with a thirty or forty point margin.

And conceding three unassisted walk over tries is just criminal.

Cunningham said you were brilliant! I deflated that a bit for you, sure you can play even better...we certainly can. Well done on the win. Nice that you get so giddy about such things these days.

Thanks. Have a great day.

i agree... we scored 3 very soft tries... You should have won by much more than you did.

Saints targeted our weakness last night and did it very well. A teams pack will always end up beaten if its spending all its time trying to get away from its own line. Saints just pinned us down and didnt really let us get out.

RD, there is no other way to describe your attempt at saying that kicking game was a plan.. and it was WORKING??????

Highlights some of the delusion on here. If that's the plan kicking wise, we are well and truly fecked

Good to see the doom and gloom is back!

Saints took their chances better than we did and had the rub of the green with decisions. Nothing more nothing less.

I still can't fathom why it's Bridge and GoB's responsibility, tho. Yes, there's an argument that one or both could have kicked better. But surely they can't be more culpable than the forwards. Aside from Westwood there really didn't seem to be much fire in their bellies at all.

I don't think you can really argue that either team had the rub of the green with the ref when Wire were seemingly granted immunity for headshots - I counted at least five that went unpunished. You want to talk rub of the green let's look at video ref decisions from a week ago...

This is not doom mongering, but I am trying to see where progression is after last season. However, last night was very disappointing, but not surprised by that game. Sts won the GF last year and have kicked on massively where are we?

They spent a period last season without their recognised playmaker/positional kicker and what happened?

Where are we with our lack of playmaker/positional kicker?

They have chosen to spend time with an aging (sorry John) forward to improve his all round play in the halves. What have we done with supposed talented young halves?

We are no better off than we were last season and it worries me that our hierarchy cannot see this! Bridge/GOB, Myler/GOB, Wheeler/GOB are not the answers to the conundrum. Is the answer Ratchford/GOB or GOB/Patton?

Who on earth is mentoring/coaching the halves?

I guess once Joel is fit he will slot into centre/wing with Penny at FB and Ratch to partner GOB.

Last night how many times was the ball passed to GOB only for him to be hit by a big forward? How many times was he caught on the wrong side of the play on the fifth tackle?

Currie was poor and looked out of his depth, how many times do we have to put KP through the mill of leaving him to defend on his own, its poor from those around him and the coaching staff need to work on that big time.

Ashton Simms, really, is he the great white hope? I haven't seen (apart from Leeds) anything to make me sit up and pay attention.

Overall last night too many players were hiding, there was a lack of commitment, a lack of leadership, a lack of drive and ambition and worse a lack of direction from the side line. If going all out one week means that rubbish the week after then we will never achieve our goals.

There is much work to do at the Wire, have we got the right personnel on and off the pitch to do it? History is the past and what happens next cannot rely on the past.

Warrington's pack didn't want to know. Masoe was hitting every half that came near our line late and not a single Warrington player did a thing. The only one remotely trying was Westwood, throwing his cheap digs when folk aren't looking. The last time he fronted up to anyone, Gray Viane put him on his ,

Saints controlled the game from start to finish, missing key players and conceding three tries from dummy half. It's not stretching it an iota to suggest that we could have racked 50 up had we been anything like. Warrington were crap.

SLS, I would be more worried about your performance than ours. We were crap all over the field and you only beat us by 8 points on your turf. Also we had more starting players than you missing including our captain. For Wire to score 24 points playing that bad means your defense is woeful.
We will improve a lot form this game but if that's your best then good luck.

A look at the points against total so far this season suggests Saints' defence is arguably its strongest attribute.

I'd much rather spend five minutes reminding players not to forget about the dummy half than face the monumental headache of a leaky defence brought about by the combination of several factors which are difficult to address.

I must admit that giving you three soft tries is quite worrying, our line defence was terrible on each of those occasions. With regard to players missing, a team is only as strong as its squad, if your squad is under strength then that is the problem of your head coach. From Saints point of view injuries are something we have adapted to and just got on with it.

Can I just remind everyone we have only played SIX games!!

p.s: Remember don't feed the trolls..

Strange observation. We had a back rower who gave your halves a lesson in half back play and a pack that was hugely dominant. Yes we conceded a couple of sloppy tries after the game was won which led to the scoreline flattering Wire.

Both sides were missing players but add Lomax/Percival/Walsh plus a fit Roby to that dominant pack and I'd say we have less to worry about than you seem to suggest.

Yes our kicking game is poor. Yes our new signings are quite. Yes it would appear we need to sort our half backs. But there is always a positive to draw....we were well off blob and still only just lost, that is encouraging that when we do hit our form all will be fine......oh and throw Joel Monaghan, Simon Grix, Ritchie Myler, Ben Harrison, Rhys Evans, Anthony England and Gary Wheeler back into the mix (that is injury hit meltdown for some teams) Sky commented on us having just 2 injuries........would rather have my wife and 3 year old lad commentating than Eddie, Stevo and Stuart Cummings, but thats for another day.

No silverware handed out in march ! , yes we aint got a leading halfback but i do believe we will go ok this year , lots of quality sat in the stands last night

Could of and should of been a different 2 bombed trys early doors and then the most blatant of professional fouls preventing a certain score

Just a friendly reminder to both sets of fans that we're still in March.

If Cas, FC & Leeds win tonight we stay 3 points clear of 4th with a much better PD, & with our next 4 games all being winnable (6/8 points minimum for me), there isn't too much to worry about at this stage, quite the opposite actually!

Plus, people like to use various "gear" analogies to describe their team's current performance but I'd say we haven't even taken the handbrake off yet.

Cheer up!

Two tricky away games and 70 points conceded hardly suggests all in the world is rosy.

Both games forwards have been dominated.

All out investment has gone on two players that are at best performing adequately. Sims is he all that? Nothing to me, I've seen suggest he's any better than England. If all Daryl Clark (who patently doesn't want to be here), is going to do is ship the ball on from dummy half, we'd have been better off keeping our reported £150k in the bank

-28 PD from 2 of the hardest games of the season is hardly doom and gloom. We may have won those games in previous seasons but we're still 3rd with 3 points between us and 4th(for now). Chill out.

Quite chilled, safe in the knowledge we'll finish 3rd to 5th at the end of the regular season. May make 3rd or 4th after the split

Lose a semi and may have a challenge cup run depending on a favourable draw - Standard