I'll make a contribution for petrol money

Cheap & unnecessary

At least the lad has tried to get us upfield & on the front foot with his scoots . He isn't the best but he has played his part in the team.

mmm, even during that period he was a bit gash.

That being said, even as one of his biggest critics on here, i'm a bit disapointed by this.

I'd have preferred to have heard a story that he was relishing the challenge of charnley being here and working hard on what pricey wants him to, in order to reclaim his spot.

Bit harsh, he wasn't that bad

I don't think we have a big enough squad to be offloading players, especially if we pick up a few more injuries. I would like to see Russell coming off the bench. I think he would be more effective then.

For those who wanted him dropped and gone this should be good news, so how about being gracious in your "victory".

He's gash. Let's not beat about the bush. About time, a few on here got a lesson in tough love.

"Ohhh he scooted well" "he tried, bless 'im" "we can't have a team full of stars".

Wigan didn't want him. Nor Hull or Gold Coast Titans. All by his early twenties. Another one of Social Worker Smith's "projects" that went busoms up. I think that's telling us something, yet the feeling from some is that we owe him some praise. We'll it won't be coming from me.

Another example of the "snowflake, can't upset anyone" society, that we have to put up with. What next.? Threads like
"John Thursfield was misunderstood. He deliberately played that bad, just to make Duane Mann look better". or
"John Dead Dog Duffy was just as good as Gary Sanderson. He just needed time"
...when we all know, both Duffy and Thursfield were tosh.
Praising Russell, is like giving the fat kid a medal, for taking part in the school sports day.

So long Russell. Don't let the Saloon doors hit your Aris, on the way out.
Oh, and "thanks" Tony Smith for giving him a contract, AND THEN extending it.

Marty Russell www.wissl.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7832

Marty Russell www.wissl.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7832

I feel your frustration and I’m one of the ones who was calling for him to be dropped...

However, it’s not HIS fault he was repeatedly picked. He wasn’t lazy and gave 110% every game. That doesn’t mean he has a right to be in the team but I feel it’s a bit unfair to blame HIM for that. I’ve got no hard feelings towards him, unlike many of the players who came here, joined the drinking culture and stole a living.

So, when I say I wish him well I mean it. But it was definitely time to try someone new. I felt the same way about Tony Smith.

I understand what you're saying, ew, but it's those few words you put, that really get on my thruppenies, and sum up English/GB sport to a T.....

...[ihe always gave 110%[/i
Don't we, as a nation, love a tryer.
Eddie the Eagle
The joke act on Strictly/X-Factor
The plucky 4th place/ loser
Bang average players who get selected for their countries, simply because of the shirt they wear, week in week out when there's MUCH better out there.

If a player isn't good enough, get rid. Play a young kid in his position, and get him used to it. It's no good persevering with 5h1te.
What's that old phrase? Definition of insanity. Doing the same thing badly, but expecting a different result.

Just get to the point will you

Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Marty Russell www.wissl.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7832'" I’m guessing that’s his American cousin,coming back from the future.

Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Marty Russell www.wissl.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7832'" I’m guessing that’s his American cousin,coming back from the future.

No doubting he can have a few brain farts per match but from what I’ve seen of him he makes more yards than Hill when running forward.

Could he play prop?

I agree that we needed to replace him, irrespective of the amount of effort put in, that wasn’t in question...

The point I was making was that we shouldn’t be disrespecting him for the fact he was in the team. The coach ultimately takes responsibility and that’s where Smith fell short. He persisted with players hoping they’d come good, and finally he had to pay the price for it (pardon the pun).

I hope it works out for Russell somewhere as despite the fact he was out of form or unsuitable for us, he did put in the effort in the P&B, more so than many others did.

Yep. No beef from me. I hope he makes a success of his career. He just shouldn't have been anywhere near a Wire shirt.

Glad he is on his way but let's do it with a bit of class and wish him well. He should never have been signed - that was the mistake.

But totally agree with the points made previously that we need to shed this "he tried hard" sentiment. That's code for accepting crap.

..are you serious or is this a wind up.if your serious i think you should give up the drink or drugs or both...hills a great forward end of russell is not a good winger end of but i wish him well in his future and thank the lad for his time at the wire...

He exceeded my expectations in his first season for us playing at fullback. However there were glaring limitations in his game which became far more evident once he got injured against widnes. For me he hasn't improved enough and the 5 year deal was a massive mistake.

Good luck to him in the future. As mentioned his problem was never a lack of effort.

That is one view. My own is that if you are going to criticise someone for their faults you should also acknowledge their strengths. Giving 100% on the field should be a given, but we can all name many players who haven't. In my view giving your all,even if it falls short of our standards, is more praiseworthy than a player who has a huge amount of skill but can't be bothered. Then there is the group who don't have any obvious skill AND can't be bothered.
I'm not saying we should sign players just because they give 100% (just to be clear).

Understand. For balance

Strengths : Very good runner from dummy half, good yardage from kick returns, strong aggressive runner, gives 100%

Weaknesses : Suspect under high ball, suspect handling, defensively fragile and liable to absolute jaw dropping howlers (Huddersfield game for example), lack of key attributes for a winger such as pace, ability to catch and evasiveness.

On an humorous aside does this view of balanced critique extend beyond sport?

e.g) Michael McIntyre
strengths : tidy hair, grandmas love him
weaknesses : absolute top hat devoid of humour.

Josef Mengele :
strengths : pioneering medical research
weaknesses : abhorrent psychopath, human rights abuser, not a real doctor.

Pol Pot
strengths : decisive, strong leadership, vision
weaknesses : a bit headstrong, liable to genocide, a bit of a lefty.

might be an idea to approach Widnes about a swap -Russel for Joe Mellor?

I once lasted about 5 minutes of McIntyre's "routine".
It's hard to judge which of the three people you mention, is most evil.