We've won 9 from 23 league games this season. We score on average 18 points a game. We let in on average 24 points a game.

After the season we've just witnessed any sane person would have quarters of doubt about beating our first two opponents. Especially with having to play Widnes on their god awful pitch.

quite happy with the times

Cats playing away from home are beatable by any team in the league so why should we struggle, Widnes finished bottom of the pile and should be treated as such, I am only thinking that Leigh may put up a fight, but even they are a team we should be beating. This is a new comp now and as such we should be full of confidence that we will be successful!!

Cats playing away from home are beatable by any team in the league so why should we struggle, Widnes finished bottom of the pile and should be treated as such, I am only thinking that Leigh may put up a fight, but even they are a team we should be beating. This is a new comp now and as such we should be full of confidence that we will be successful!!

I think the problem is the fact that if you look at the squad we had at the start of the year, you would have said that there was no chance whatsoever that we would have fallen into the bottom 4 - but we did. Now looking at the games in the new division you could say that there is no chance of us losing to sides like Widnes and Cats at home, unfortunately you only need some bad refereeing decisions, or bad luck, or nerves, or a critical injury, or Widnes / Catalans playing out of their skins, to lose these sorts of matches. Then team confidence falls and anything can happen.

One of the problems is the Middle 4's competition is designed purely to pull in more spectators. In doing so it risks a club finishing 9th actually dropping into the Championship. Now you could say that will never happen, Wire are far to good to go down. Unfortunately we saw with the old format Leeds finishing only 5th in the league but winning the GF - again, it shouldn't have happened. But in trying to get more spectators (by making the playoffs include most of the teams in the league), the RFL risked it happening, and we all know the outcome - they had to scrap that format and try this new one instead.

Anything less than 100% effort & 100% attitude will not be good enough.

There are some experienced old stagers in these championship clubs who could pull a win out of the bag.

The international break was the first thing to cross my mind aswel. Unless you stay over. Rubbish.

Out of those 7 games with those days and times, I can make 2 possibly 3 of them.
I've actually surprised myself as I'm not actually that bothered..! Not like me at all..
I do feel sorry with those involved in amateur RL who have been completely alienated with the Saturday games... But hey at least the pi$$ heads are happy !

As one of the 'pi$$ heads' you mention....correct. I like a Saturday afternoon game. However, i agree that it isn't fair on a lot of speccies that have involvement with Amateur clubs.

To repeat an earlier post though. That K.O time in London is an absolute shocker!!

In terms of the 8's themselves, if we were to struggle it will be nothing more than we deserve after some of the shocking displays this year. However, personally, i would be very surprised if we do not win at the very least 5 out of the 7 upcoming fixtures.

Being in the middle 8s is embarrassing considering Wire fans were saying back in Feb it was going to be your year to be Super League champions.

I mean, even just over a month ago a poster on here called rubber duckie said he was 'confident' Wire were going to win both the Challenge Cup and Grand Final.

Still, Wire should have enough quality to stay up. Should.

Yes, that is what we all said, just like we all said it last year.

I always find it quite amusing when fans take everything for granted...Middle 8's whats that?..



They couldn't even beat the whipping boys..

Visiting London Broncos is a messy business these days so, since I live in West London, I thought it might be useful if I suggested a way to get there.

Firstly perhaps not everyone knows that they have moved since they used to play at The Stoop in Twickenham. They now play at the Trailfinders Sports Club in Ealing. It's not, however, particularly near the middle of Ealing. If you are driving down your Sat Nav will no doubt get you there easily enough but if you are coming down on the train here's my advice.

You will get in to Euston Station and should take the Victoria Line south to Oxford Circus where you should change to the Central Line and go west all the way to Ealing Broadway. The cheapest way to travel on the underground is to use contactless at the barrier.

When you come out of the Ealing Broadway station there are many bus stops spread around in different directions and of course you need to go to the right one. There are different options but to keep it simple cross the road and go up the left side of the road opposite which is called Haven Green and go to bus stop E. There is a red disk on the top of the bus stop with the (in this case E) in white. Catch the E2 bus or the E9 bus and get off at Scotch Common. The buses have electronic boards letting you know what the next stop is.

At Scotch Common walk back a few yards and turn right onto Vallis Way which will take you to the ground. If you want a drink or something to eat turn left instead and walk down Scotch Common to the pub.

Of course there are other ways to do it but I hope this helps. It must be tempting I suppose to stay at home and watch it on TV.

No chance of going on the train, last one back is 20.31. Well done RFL.

Anything less that 7 wins is unacceptable. A top 4 wealthy club in this predicament is appalling.

Possibly the problem. Too much wealth can buy who we want, individual quality but don't play as a team like Cas, Wakey

We are going on the train Mark, just like last time!

Thanks wires4ever. We are training down, last one was the Hive so better make sure we don't just replicate our last journey!

Lol last and only time on a train with you was a disaster. How you managing that then, i assume you staying overnight?

Might sound daft but personally I think you're home and dry before a ball has been played. Cannot see you losing any games

Booked travel lodge London Ealing £35 each for the night

Ah but did you see us being in the middle 8's in the first place?

Im still thinking about it.

Got to say no, but over the last month you do seem to be getting back to form which is what counts right now. Didn't expect the Giants to be in there last year but just started to hit some form before the middle 8's and carried that into the 8's as I'm sure you will do

I hope you're right but I'm not taking anything for granted this season, we could lose to anyone in the 8's given some of our performances we've had in the regular season. We should win them all, but I doubt we will.