Whern Penny was good he is outstanding, but then after the cup game at Saints where he pretty much cost us the game his confidence just went. Its good that he can do well at other clubs (and probably connected to the fact hes not playing in front of a bunch of haters who are just waiting for him to slip up) but if we let him go I recon within 5 years we'll be wishing we hadn't

I guess for me as well thinking about it, I think I want him to do well as a sort of 'victory against the system' to some degree. I'm sick to death of watching lumps on the wing who have no ability whatsoever, I can't enjoy watching Francis Meli for example, he might be a component that makes Saints successful, and I'm not for one second implying that Penny is a better winger than he, merely that SL is a product, and I get infinately more enjoyment out of Penny than the likes of Meli. Last night, as a neutral, everytime Quins had the ball I'm wanting them to commit men infield and create an overlap for him, that's what it's about isn't it ?

I've said on here a billion times before, that try at Knowsley Road in 2008, that's my favourite ever try, it's the most breathtaking moment I've ever experienced as a spectator, as a game - the semi at Widnes last year blew me away, as a 15 second thrill, from the moment Penny took off in his own 20m line to grounding the ball, it was just surreal. Anyone who has that ability to do that, there's a place for them in our sport for me, any day of the week.

I guess now, what I really want, and what I believe can & will happen is that Warrington can be a success without Kevin Penny, and Kevin Penny can be a success without Warrington Wolves as I don't think that they're such a perfect fit anymore, sadly.

i would imagine not having all of us on his back last night from the off was a big help as well.

Penny has scored several tries, that very few wingers in the world can score. Great feet, and serious pace.

I'm glad he's away from Widnes, he's unlikely to improve on his defence with Cullen looking after him.

Should he improve his defence, or specifically his decision making, then he'd get in the team ahead of Hicks and Riley. Big if though. Good luck to him.

Good post.

Penny has also given me some of my favourite RL memories in recent history. Tries like the one against Wigan when he skinned Ashton, at a time when there was loads of pressure on Penny as they'd started printing the t-shirts and he was getting known in the RL world. The hat-trick against Saints, where he made Gardner look stupid was just breath-taking.

Watching him in full flow is just beautiful, just like it was seeing Offiah in full flow.

What a great debut performance for us.
Showed commitment & skill in every department & was a definate "Shining Star" in our best performance this season.
Spoke to him in the bar afterwards & what a nice & enthusiastic bloke he is.
Please can we have him for longer than the month !!!!!

I think it'll be a big mistake if we let him actually go. It would be better for him I reckon, but he's an amazing player that can and has scored some outstanding tries. I'd rather be watching him than Hicks, and Hicks is a great player.

Iv'e said this before, Kevin has a lot of potential and was thrown in at the deepend when we had players out with injuries, he will become a good player given time and a chance!

I would love him at Quins. We don't have the stars that you have at Wire so he would stand out and be a big favourite. We are so short of firepower that we would forgive the occasional brain fart in return for the many tries im sure he will get.
Come on Kev make a new start where you will be appreciated.

Piss off Snoopy, most of us would rather he stayed exactly where he is.

Every time the discussion about Kev Penny comes up the issue of his defence is raised - I bet these same people would have been criticising Brian Bevan or Martin Offiah for being a bit weak in the tackle. What is a winger for FFS? How many players in SL, never mind at Warrington, make you stand up with anticipation when the ball gets into their hands with half a gap, no a quarter gap, in front of them? Chris Riley has done fantastically well this season, but does your heart pause when he gets the ball? Do you stretch up half an inch in height in the South Stand when Matt King has the ball to see him do something that will take your breath away? No. And yet rugby fans all over the country anticipate something when Kev Penny has the ball - not always does he deliver but when he does it is something to tell the grandchildren "I was there" - when he scored at Saints, when he skinned Gidley, Gardener & Wellens at Knowsley Road, the time he left Ashton on the floor at the HJ, goose-stepping away from Paul Reilly, the list goes on.

Kev Penny is an exceptional talent, he puts bums on seats, he excites people. And people would have him out of the club because he's a bit suspect in the tackle. Martin Offiah went hiding when the opposition had the ball & 500 tries says he wasn't a bad winger...

Kevin Penny is nowhere near as bad as people make out.

the full length kick and chase against Salford, not sure who it was but he had a 15 start and Penny still beat him

for me Penny is a more complete player than Riley and i would rather pay to watch him than the Ginger any day.
Riley makes many more mistakes than Penny but for some reason the south standers love Riley?

BINGO!!! we have a winner!!!

Fantastic post MP, absolutely spot on

I must say I enjoyed watching him do what he does.

he quite obviously isn't.

Maybe Geordie, you should add a poll to this thread to see what peoples general consensus is now regarding KP ?

I might be in a minority here, but I actually think Kevin Penny has a future at this club.

He is a genuine excitement machine, and there aren't too many of them around in British Rugby League at the moment. If there's no room in the modern game for a player like KP then so be it, but as a spectacle RL will be all the worse for it.

I would like to see Kev Penny have a good run in the first team at Warrington next season. He needs games to improve his defence at super league level. This is something that wont happen over night, keep him at Quins it will do him the world of good.

Also you cant compare Penny to the likes of Brian Bevan and Martin Offiah, the game has progressed light years since then and any comparisons would be unfair on all.

Penny was class for us last year it was a real shame he got recalled for that one game you guys had before the cup final (though obviously justified because you won the final!). He formed a great partnership with Craig Hall. His defence wasn't a problem and his enthusiasm was infectious towards the rest of the team and the fans.

I'd have him at Widnes anyday, now and if we get in in a couple of seasons time.

He has always looked dangerous against saints and has scored some really good tries against us, I remember a cup match at Knowsley Road when he scored a couple.
And his try saturday was well taken.

His problem is that his head goes down after one mistake.

I would swap Ade Gardner for him tommorrow.

Penny is a very exciting player to watch and has scored some spectacular tries but if you were to swap him for reilly (for example) you would be weakening the team rather than strengthening it.