Saints had a roll on from the off. Have to agree with Saddened in respect of the ground made by their three quarter line, as opposed to ours, when bringing the ball away from your own try line. It made Saints pack have an easier job than ours. Thought we defended well on the whole, and a ball steal with instant off load coupled with a wicked bounce of a ball (where it landed usually ends up going over the dead ball line), cost us the game.

We looked booked for third place before this game, so we have the benefit of it being a learning experience as opposed to it being a dent to any play off hopes.

Would have thought he’d have to carry the ball in or make a tackle to get a knock to be honest.

I've said for a while, Saints and Warrington fans are very similar. You're seriously telling me you wouldn't have celebrated winning a game like that at our ground? Every away team does that if they win, whether it's a rival or not.

Bentley is vastly superior to Bateman at the moment. It's not even close.

And the last point, Saints are a lot fitter than most teams. Also winning the ruck and being on the front foot for a lot of the game helps. Wire having D. Clark playing well below 100% slowed you down as well. You looked more lively when Walker came on.

I'm told Lineham has been hit with a 2 game ban. No other charges from the game.

If Bentley spent half his time playing Rugby rather than winding other players up he'd still be bang f***ing average. The bloke would be out fly-tipping or in jail if he wasn't being paid as a full time WUM. What a Class A pr!ck he is.

I'm sure I'll join you in thinking that next season when he's causing mayhem with Leeds. His effort and enthusiasm (and winding up) is brilliant. He's been very dominant since he came back, he bullied Bateman and Wigan and your pack last night had no real answers to him other than chasing him round and complaining to the referee. Whilst your players were trying to stop him, our key players were having a big say on the game.

I don't think 'bang f***ing average' players do 69 tackles with 2 broken ribs in a Grand Final really do they. He's outstanding.

I only watched the second half so I won't comment on the overall performance. I didn't love what I did see.

One lesson we absolutely must learn quickly is not to let ourselves get wound up and distracted by cartoon characters like Bentley (or Tony Clubb, Joel Tomkins, etc). It's bad enough when young guys get knocked off their game, but you definitely shouldn't be seeing experienced pros lashing it out in frustration and losing the gameplan.

Agreed. Bentley is a cracking player. Would have him in our pack in a heartbeat.

Lol. Deary me. Though I suppose when we're used to 'kill the play' Hughes one can be forgiven for thinking Bentley has any legitimate skills to bring to the game of Rugby

The difference is your lot consistently claim we are not your rivals, we are irrelevant etc. My point is, if that is the case why are the celebrations for beating Leigh not the same as for beating us? Obviously that was a rhetorical question.

Knowles and Walmsley, yes, Bentley, definitely not.

Bentley and Bateman? Is it Comic Relief time again?

Bateman is twice the player Bentley is and proved it in the toughest comp in the world. If Bentley tried his Dennis the Menace antics in the NRL he'd wake up in a hospital bed minus various dangly bits with the voice of Aled Jones circa The Snowman.

That moustache is a crime against the male gender as well.

Skill set wise Bentley is very limited and WAY behind Bateman, maybe not this season mind as I'd give Bateman a run for his money at the minute. I will say I actually quite like Bentleys antics, we need pantomime villains they add to the occasion. We can't moan about the game getting stale and sanitised and then get annoyed at a grub. The game used to have brutal personal forward battles of Boyd/Sorenson/Skerett/Ward etc that was worth the entrance fee. Each team had a grub as well. No I know Bentley is a poor relation to the grubs of old but at least he gets people talking and spices up a match.

That would depend on how many were either third or fourth man in.

Paul Wood played in a GF with a ruptured testicle, that may make him heroic to us, but not an "outstanding" player.

Oh for the days when we'd have a Paul Wood in his prime coming off our bench!!

Serious question......if he's "outstanding", why are you getting rid of him?

We're not? We only offered 5k less than Leeds (unlike Coote/ Fages where our offers were doubled+) but he wanted to play for his home town team, so rejected Saints offer. Hes a very good player, but not without his flaws (in particular his attacking game). Hes not the Saints player to throw the budget out for though, and wish him the best at Leeds, whilst thankful the club didnt spend overs convincing him to stay.

No one seems to know whose replacing him though which is always the big question (and before anyone says it, Hurrell will replace Thompson rather than Bentley

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We have Jack Hughes and Jason Clark in our back row. Beggars can’t be choosers.

But haven’t we signed Holmes from Cas who is a different type of back row?

Difference being that "back in the day" players were able to smarten a grub up without copping a hefty ban.

How on earth would you have access to this information? Unless..Eamonn is that you?

Bentley's agent put the £5k figure and an explanation of Bentley's situation out in an interview I believe. Note sure where the other revelations came from. The only way I can see Hull KR doubling Coote's offer is by giving him two years rather than one possibly. The Fages to Huddersfield deal has been rumoured for about six months now, but oddly hasn't been confirmed by them or the player yet.

He'll replace Clark yes but we'll still have Hughes starting every game and captaining the club, astoundingly.

Quote ="Captain Hook"How on earth would you have access to this information? Unless..Eamonn is that you?'" None of it is particularly sensitive information? Bentley receiving 4 offers within 5k : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F0XyiYJpNw&t=5331s (are we allowed to post youtube links these days? Or am I showing my age remembering a time when youtube links were banned on forums like RLFans?) Coote (+30% + an extra year) and Fages (literally double) offers in not so many words https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ey-players Our signings arent really much of a secret either though the club hasnt announced them yet?

Quote ="Captain Hook"How on earth would you have access to this information? Unless..Eamonn is that you?'" None of it is particularly sensitive information? Bentley receiving 4 offers within 5k : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F0XyiYJpNw&t=5331s (are we allowed to post youtube links these days? Or am I showing my age remembering a time when youtube links were banned on forums like RLFans?) Coote (+30% + an extra year) and Fages (literally double) offers in not so many words https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ey-players Our signings arent really much of a secret either though the club hasnt announced them yet?

Bentley has an agent? Dear god, I bet he's a shady character. I'm thinking Col Parker meets Don King but with less scruples. I wonder if he's got a few weeks in panto lined up for Jimmy SinBin? Nice little earner, an no mistake guv.