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According to an article in the Hull Daily Mail today Tomkins could play for KR next weekend.

It won't be long before he gets a name and reputation if he keeps it up.

Keeps what up? 1 incident which hasn’t been adjudicated on yet?

Les Boyd came here with a "reputation" 34 years ago. He got sent off in Wire games, once, in four years. It went to disciplinary. Found not guilty.

Austin got cited for 2 things, last week.The busyboddying RFL said no problem.
Yesterday, from the coverage we've seen from South Stand cameras, show no thuggery (imo) took place. If there's coverage from the North Stand showing otherwise, then he'll be appropriately penalised.

Until then, I suggest the untwisting of knickers

From my eyes, he was completing a tackle with some aggression. No worse than the likes of Tompkin's dirty fall ons. I would never wish ill upon a player, but Joel Tompkins has received some karma here, intention or no intention from Austin. Conclusion: probably a ban for Austin; no sympathy for a grub like Tompkins.

I never said he was...I said if he keeps it up. What he gets away with, like the said Tomkins, is what opposition fans will shape his reputation with.

You said he was an Aussie Danny Brough. Seemed a bit of a grub.

I reckon it's a bit soon for any labels. Let's see what the outcome is of the disciplinary. I do suspect Austin's using offence as best form of defence though. The minute he pulled on a Wire jersey as a marquee player there was a target on the back of it. Let's ensure that's just in the eyes of the opposition players and fans though rather than our own.

If it was a late flop, surely the player wasn’t held? So no case to answer?

Can't even call it a flop. Flop is a man coming late into a completed tackle, which this wasn't. It was a tackle. The only doubt is over whether it was reckless, dangerous, malicious or unlucky. I'd go with the latter, as I was sat close to incident, and that video footage hasn't changed my mind.

I said.

Austin for all his class seems a bit of a grub. An Aussie Danny Brough.

I tried to make a tongue in cheek opinion of a possible present and/or near future scenario, whereas your misquote tries to imply it a statement of historic fact.

I dont think anyones in doubt that the tackle needed completing, its just a case of wether contact was made with the head.
I dont think anything malicious has gone on and if there is contact its probably more careless than anything.

Hardly a misquote. Didn't realise you need folk to repeat what you said verbatim, but pretty sure nothing really changes there. I haven't screwed with your comment.

Unbunch your feathers.

Amused by Danny McGuire's histrionics about foul play, waving his elbow at anyone who would look at it. Perhaps thats what he was doing in the second half when he gave a tackled Goodwin a facial on the floor with his forearm...

Was McGuire actually gesturing that though? The way I saw it was that McGuire was gesturing to his team mates to pull into position so he could take advantage of Warrington’s defence being in disarray.

Once he realises the ball has been lost he seems to protest for a steal, which is standard player response when their own team loses possession.

I was watching from the North Stand, almost in line but obviously some yards back and without the benefit of replay. My first reaction was that the tackle was not complete but there was a suspicion that Austin's forearm hay have ended up above the shoulder. Had Tompkins not stayed down / lost the ball it would have been play on as it wasn't clear.

The replay from the South Stand, from my point of view, confirms that the tackle was incomplete but you cannot see any contact. Clearly the player was concussed so he has presumably received a blow to the head either from direct contact with Austin or with the ground. The RL are rightly keen to protect players from head injury so chances are that Austin will be sitting out the next few.

It'll also be interesting to see how the disciplinary panel view the head high tackle on Cooper as he goes over for his try.

And somebody having a go at Charnley's knee in front of the south stand.

nothing in it as far as I can see.

Tomkins has just got his head in the wrong position ....

no knees no elbows. unless Austin has punched him in the head I cant see any foul play.....

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We've got footage from the northstand

All joking aside, I watched the video, the more I watched it, the less I thought there was in it, his knees come down at his hips/midriff. His left arm goes over the body, the only thing you cant see is the right hand, but you would expect him to swing his arm or raise his elbow in order to connect so hard that it fractures a skull.

In fact I then started watching it again in case I'd missed ratch do something. But no.

Tomkins is out of hospital, it was concussion and he could be okay next week as its outside the concussion window! Much a do about nothing from everything I have seen. This was just unfortunate, I think it was the ground personally but again there may be replays that bring new evidence to light that we haven't seen.

I'm glad tomkins is OK, he may have grub tendencies but he's been a good player over the years. I can't see any reason for there to be a ban for this incident after a sin binning, in fact the sin bin looks harsh from what I've seen.

That photograph would appear rule out knees, elbows to head and whether the tackle was complete. EXHIBIT1 for the defence I think.

But what head, shoulders and toes? All together now...