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| Quote ="runningman29"Right what odds for us winning the lot + how much you had on?Personally think you’re living in cloud cuckoo land as per and is it any wonder with posts like that that other supports think we’re arrogant?'"
Echoing remarks doesn't make them right.
Who is a bigger a fool, a fool or a the fool that follows?
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| Just reading this whole thread confirms all my reasons for not bothering with this site any more.
Every other post is the ranting taxi driver waffling absolute nonsense and then him getting bolshy when somebody points out he is talking nonsense.
It's a shame really, because without him the level of debate is usually quite decent. With him, it descends into childish rubbish, more befitting the school playground.
Anyway, as for the Rugby - Difficult to judge after one game (5 or 6 games and it will be clearer), especially against a Leeds side who, bar the opening 10 minutes, were no better than last season. But I'd predict, if Austin/Clark/Ratchford stay clear of serious injuries, then we will definitely be in the mix.
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| Don't worry, before long rubber duckie will be back to his old gripe of saying Patton has to play behind a beaten pack, his optimism comes in peaks and troughs!
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I also congratulate you on your ability to include yourself on a remark about me.'"
100% directed at you RD.
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| Lads, dont make me rewrite my last post, but in red, seriously
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Lads, dont make me rewrite my last post, but in red, seriously'"
And yet your solution to your dilemma is such a clear & simple one....
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| Actually lay off of the Duck. We all know what he is like, accurate or not I often find him amusing. At least he isn’t self righteous.
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| Goodness me, what the hell are you lot bickering about? Cast your mind back 12 months and be thankful for how far we've come and unite in excitement.
RD is the on-line version of the bloke who stood next to me in the Locker Cup at Wigan and told me a debuting Basil Richards would be the next Hanley and a Wire Great. Harmless fun, all in the game.
Stick to legitimate, deserving targets that aren't P&B.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Goodness me, what the hell are you lot bickering about? Cast your mind back 12 months and be thankful for how far we've come and unite in excitement.
RD is the on-line version of the bloke who stood next to me in the Locker Cup at Wigan and told me a debuting Basil Richards would be the next Hanley and a Wire Great. Harmless fun, all in the game.
Stick to legitimate, deserving targets that aren't P&B.'"
Ahh that was you!
He had potential though.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Don't worry, before long rubber duckie will be back to his old gripe of saying Patton has to play behind a beaten pack, his optimism comes in peaks and troughs!'"
Somehow I don't think I will be saying that this season.
The conundrum will be around 12 months time when we wonder which half will partner which...unless the Pies come in for him.
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| Here's the thing.
Too many are biting there lips ready to pounce itching for Patton to drop a bollc so they can slate him...well not too many of you guys on here really but on the bacefook.
It far to say but for counting on 2 fingers on this platform almost all of us agree how good that team effort was last night...and will point so many of that team out individually and praise how good they were....but so many shying away from holding their hands up and Patton who was great. The silence is defending.
In fact posters saying he was OK.
And people say I post shat...! Hey I do often, but I'll give the odd comeback when posts get a little personal but by and large I except all criticism.
But smell the custard...you cannot say the team was 'great' 'fantastic' 'words of superlative' and others and then swerve the effort of Patton within those comments and seriously not say 'he was ok' ...'not good but not bad'.
Have a word with yourselves.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Actually lay off of the Duck. We all know what he is like, accurate or not I often find him amusing. At least he isn’t self righteous.'"
Thanks for that.
Yes my level is no higher than that of any fan.
My crime is being very impressed by this team. Early remarks by so many top pundits and especially the bookies rarely get it wrong...I'm going one step ahead and calling it now instead of being cautious.
If confidence is a crime then I plead guilty. Bragging and trolling isn't my thing. If readers take my confidence as so then I apologise, not for being confident, but because I'm not going to change my mind.
My money is on Wire...with Patton in it.
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| I was very impressed with the off-loading we achieved..especially in the 1st half....Cooper and Lineham were very effective at this, Austin will thrive off that...
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| I wasn't disappointed with anyone last night, I thought across the board we looked an improvement on last year. Including Patton.
My issue with Dec is I look at players like Hughes, Ratchford, Cooper, Clarke, Philbin, Lineham and they have all.made significant improvements under Price whereas Dec hasn't.
They'll be off-days for Austin or ganes where we rest him and it's [ithen[/i Dec needs to show he genuinely has improved not just his skills but his game management.
But to be fair, I watched Myler last night and he is doing (or rather not doing) what he did at Wires, and I certainly wouldn't swop Patton for him.
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| Thought the performance was superb. We seemed very lively, enthusiastic and had good pace of movement in attack, largely down to Austin who for a first game looked very good. He showed more enthusiasm and interest in one game than Roberts showed all season. Behind a dominant and superb performance by the pack I thought Clark was excellent. All in all a good marker and one can only hope there is more to come.
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| Brilliant display by the whole team, defensively we we're Much much better then i've seen in a long time.
Attacking we were very good aswell and we seem like a very well oiled machine.
Goodwin was excellent, Austin was brilliant, Atkins seems like a new player who has finally developed ball playing skills, Toby King has put a little bit of size on and played well in the second row. Dec Patton made a few mistakes at the beginning but got better as the game went on and i think a few more games under his belt in the halves and he will settle right in and develop
And we still have the likes of Mamo, Currie, Livett, Tasi, Akuoala still not played so i'm very excited for this season.
I know it's only one game but we looked very very good
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| Brilliant display by the whole team, defensively we we're Much much better then i've seen in a long time.
Attacking we were very good aswell and we seem like a very well oiled machine.
Goodwin was excellent, Austin was brilliant, Atkins seems like a new player who has finally developed ball playing skills, Toby King has put a little bit of size on and played well in the second row. Dec Patton made a few mistakes at the beginning but got better as the game went on and i think a few more games under his belt in the halves and he will settle right in and develop
And we still have the likes of Mamo, Currie, Livett, Tasi, Akuoala still not played so i'm very excited for this season.
I know it's only one game but we looked very very good
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| Not sure what game Sadman was watching but it wasn’t the same one as me; well played to all of the Wire lads
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Here's the thing.
Too many are biting there lips ready to pounce itching for Patton to drop a bollc so they can slate him...well not too many of you guys on here really but on the bacefook.
It far to say but for counting on 2 fingers on this platform almost all of us agree how good that team effort was last night...and will point so many of that team out individually and praise how good they were....but so many shying away from holding their hands up and Patton who was great. The silence is defending.
In fact posters saying he was OK.
And people say I post shat...! Hey I do often, but I'll give the odd comeback when posts get a little personal but by and large I except all criticism.
But smell the custard...you cannot say the team was 'great' 'fantastic' 'words of superlative' and others and then swerve the effort of Patton within those comments and seriously not say 'he was ok' ...'not good but not bad'.
Have a word with yourselves.'"
For me he was ok.
No I'm not waiting for him, or any other player to slip up.
DP is a squad player who has a big opportunity due to Brown's misfortune. I am not expecting top draw performances, but I'm expecting a solid, dependable season, as "OK" is acceptable for DP.
OK wasn't acceptable for Roberts last year, nor is it for the big signings this, or, next year, on a week to week basis.
In 2020, I expect Widdop and Austin to be first choice half back partners. OK for DP is fine, as that is what my expectation of him is, same as it was for GOB.
Our squad have different roles to play, as long as they fulfill them, I'm more than happy.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"there's no hopes from me. A spade is a spade. Last season I expected 2 finals and top 2 with top 4 minimum.
That's what we got!
This season I expect the lot...and we'll win the lot. The squad quality is just too deep to fail.
I saw Saints...they played well but the depth in forwards is still shallow. Warmsley is massive for them no question. They'll be near us but not better. I still say Wakefield will be the strongest chaser.'"
‘Strongest chaser’ Wakefield just lost 42-24 to London.
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| I didn't see that coming with Wakey. There doing Saints a favour then AS108
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| Happy to see a long paragraph off Saddened, usually means we are quite good.....if we get better as Blake Austin alluded to post match, I guess he'll dissappear as per a couple of years ago...
to the game... well pre match actually. i noticed Goodwin was practising catching high bombs while a member of the training staff wore a tackle pad on his back.
Bryson was jumping up hitting the pads in the air while catching the ball Aussie rules style.. my comment was "whats going on here never seen this before". He then caught faultlessly throughout the game... real atention to detail that the coaching staff and players should be commended on...
the game was superb stuff Austin looks great and everything i thought he would be, like a more athletic faster more well balanced Briers...
Watching it back on sky I skipped the whole season and thought wow He's gong to be partnered with Widdop next year...!!!
Patton was ok ..... ha ha only joking he was as good as the rest of the team apart from Hill Cooper Austin Ratchford Daz Clark and Goodwin who i thought were exceptional
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| As fans we see so many knockers and I'm one when I feel its warranted but even when it's not....when someone harshly or wrongly rips a player, we say nothing. When a player get a rap who may not be flavour of the month, everyone is horrified.
The RL family mentality is upside down.
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| I’m at a loss to sometimes understand the unnecessary debate.
Putting it succinctly we played extremely well last night. There are no negatives from that performance after game 1.
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| The “Wire Flyer” at half time, please tell me that isn’t our away strip he was wearing...
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