I wouldn’t be averse to Henderson having a go. We can only speculate as to how much say he has had under Price whereas we know he did a decent job at London. He knows the squad, he doesn’t need to bed in, I just can’t see Price being told to go 1 game into the season.

Unfortunately. This isnt just at steve prices level. This is fundamental from top to bottom. Ever since we lost gatliffe.

I have a view and i think it may work.

1st off. Make a call and beg and plead for mr warrington himself paul cullen to come back to the club. I know it wasnt the best of exits. But time is a great healer and he has dug us out of problems in the past. Atleast we can see it now and not 12 games into the season where we could be in a worst position. And with relegation back on the table this year. We probably need 16 points to guarantee safety.

Call time on the services of steve price and install paul cullen at interim coach for the rest of this season.

Get rid of karl Fitzpatrick. He has blown alot of hot air as ceo and quiet frankly. He is just as useless as the previous one. Who was it. Middleton.

Kick broomhead out of his position. He is surplus to requirements. What does he actually do apart from standing in front of the north stand each week why he gets his picture taken while talking politics. I dont care anymore. Your not needed.

Bring in a world class coach. Although let's be honnest. It's looking more and more likely that it's going to be darryl Powell if Barrie McDermott is to be believed on sky.

Next season. Move paul cullen upstairs and give him the position of ceo. I think he will do a fantastic job and will represent the club well as a ceo.

Allow the next coach to give cullen a list. And let's get the players who will actually do a job for us. In for next season.

As soon as cullen comes in. Place EVERYONE on notice that they are playing for there jobs.
If needs be. Get rid of them. Bring in new players. And so that we ain't going over salary cap. Make them sit at home for the remainder of there contact and delisting them so they ain't on the salary cap rules. Do anything that will turn us around.

There are a number of reasons why this won’t happen but the most obvious is the idea that you can put players who are on contract “on notice” .
Ignoring the salary cap issue (and it’s not as straightforward as you say) the idea that a rugby league club can pay 2 first team squads at the same time is pure fantasy.

But apart from that.....

To be fair he makes a few valid points.

The problems run far deeper than the coach. A few ex players have tweeted the same thing. Theres too many pals at the top of the club, it’s run like a jolly boys outing. Fitzpatrick, Middleton and Lomax they have no idea how to run a rugby club. These fellas are fans playing boardroom rugby. Fitzpatrick was carrying the water a few years ago.

There may be a few valid points but they are wrapped up in something so radical and wide-ranging and called for immediately that they are either lost and or undeliverable.

I'm not convinced about Fitzpatrick but I can't agree with calling out the money men for playing boardroom rugby does abramovich know much about football? Their role is surely to provide the environment for us to flourish including employing the right none playing staff from top to bottom.

We are all disappointed with our current arrangements but one thing that can't be levelled at us as a club is a lack of ambition and for that at least I'm grateful

I think part of the frustration with us the fans is a lack of clarity as to who does what certainly on the coaching side. I mean does Price do everything or just oversee everything and come up with game plans which I understand was TS way of working to a degree.
If we understood, for example, that Briers was in charge of offence and Henderson was in charge of defence then it might lend itself to a more rational debate and more objective finger pointing. From the outside, the lack of clarity makes it more difficult to properly understand what is going wrong and hence provide the best solutions.

But Abramovich is an absolute merciless ruthless businessman. These guys are not ruthless. Its plainly obvious to see that with the decisions they’ve made as a board of directors over the last few years.

If their role is to employ the right none playing staff from top to bottom then wouldn’t you agree they’ve failed in that regard in recent years?

Regarding us not lacking ambition. It would have been showing ambition for us to sack Price at the end of last season, like most fans craved and appointed Ian Watson but we never did. Yes we will sign the odd marquee player now and again like Greg Inglis just like other clubs do but there’s been a number of times when the club and its directors have shown zero ambition and accepted mediocrity and not listened to the fans in recent years.

I don’t think I have ever been as distant to the club as I am now. They just don't listen to the fans. The same fans who donated thousands of pounds were of season ticket money last season.

You are Paul Cullen, and I claim my £5

The Price debacle should be the end of Karl. I dont question Karl's thirst for commercial success, but he's dropped a bollock keeping Price after the way we ended last year. People can blame Covid but Hodgson went to Hull (after a REALLY ruthless sacking) and Watson handed his cards in at Salford. Hindsight now probably says Powell would've maybe jumped ship off season if we came up.

We need some rugby accumen making decisions with the business men up top making the numbers work (for which I'm grateful). Instead, we've got Karl and Steve, saying the exact same thing at the end of a poor playoffs in 2019 AND 2020.

I'll also add, what normal company, sports or otherwise would let 12+ contractors and the contracts manager/project leader all come to the end of their contract at the same time when the project isn't finished yet.

Yes. my last paragraph is pure fantasy. But my other points are valid.
Fitzpatrick needs to go. And cullen I feel he will make a good CEO.
We haven't had a decent ceo since Andy gatliffe. Its fair to say that the decline started had been creeping in and getting worse since gatliffe left.

Based on the none delivery of a GF victory coupled with turgid performances on the pitch I'd agree that there has been some failure in employing the right none playing staff. As another poster remarked I'd like to know more about the set up behind the scenes what the CEO does and what each coach has responsibility for before casting judgement.

Regarding Abramovich I know I brought it up but I'm not sure it's a fair comparison. For a start he's an autocrat something I wouldn't want at our club. I like the fact that our board are fans I think it's a positive and of course he's fishing in a different pond a none salary capped sport with seemingly unlimited resources of coaches and players willing to take the plunge in the world's premier sports competition based in west London.

As far as listening to fans goes I think that they do but you've only got to look on here for an idea of what that could mean. I enjoy everyone's contributions even the ones I don't agree with but I wouldn't necessarily want to run the club by our committee week on week.

Correct about Gatcliffe. Not just the on the coaching/recruitment side but the whole business.

Bear in mind when he left we were sponsored by Fly Emirates, had just completed a successful marketing/media blitz by flying to Aus in pre-season which put us in good standing to get into the World Club competition and had a healthy crowd and season ticket base. Would routinely get event matches (cup semi finals, internationals). We were establishing ourselves as a premier club.

Now, realistically, we’re an ‘also ran’ team. I think realistically, the overriding emotion if we won the Grand Final would be shock, whereas in 2011 to 2013,14,15, 16 it was almost an expectation. What we were building under Gatcliffe and Smith has been washed away.

People will call me a hopeless romantic, but I would try and get the band back together. Bring Gatcliffe in, even in a non-executive role, to give the whole club some direction. Then try to lure Tony Smith in as a Director of Rugby. From there put all of our eggs in a young, promising head coach who has some affiliation and loyalty to the club (which realistically helps to get fans inside early doors in what would be a transitional period). I’d go Briers.

The marketing manager (sorry CEO) is the problem, he appears to be convincing the money men that high profile signings are the way forward at the expense of team balance.

The root of the troubles are in the board room, they should have a grip on KF.

Price isn't and never was the answer to our quest he was a make do appointment just like Latu was last season.

The club is once again a rudderless ship and until Moran and Middleton get a grip it will continue, Fitzpatrick was a totally inept appointment.

Quote ="Barbed Wire"Correct about Gatcliffe. Not just the on the coaching/recruitment side but the whole business. Bear in mind when he left we were sponsored by Fly Emirates, had just completed a successful marketing/media blitz by flying to Aus in pre-season which put us in good standing to get into the World Club competition and had a healthy crowd and season ticket base. Would routinely get event matches (cup semi finals, internationals). We were establishing ourselves as a premier club. Now, realistically, we’re an ‘also ran’ team. I think realistically, the overriding emotion if we won the Grand Final would be shock, whereas in 2011 to 2013,14,15, 16 it was almost an expectation. What we were building under Gatcliffe and Smith has been washed away. People will call me a hopeless romantic, but I would try and get the band back together. Bring Gatcliffe in, even in a non-executive role, to give the whole club some direction. Then try to lure Tony Smith in as a Director of Rugby. From there put all of our eggs in a young, promising head coach who has some affiliation and loyalty to the club (which realistically helps to get fans inside early doors in what would be a transitional period). I’d go Briers.'" Just re the fly emirates sponsorship, yes it was prestigious but whilst the interim(uncle rog) let things slide, they were pulling back on sponsorship. The flip side, we now have hoover, which financially is a bigger package than the fly emirates deal. Dont forget gatcliffe's last sponsoship deal as he walked out the door and got the club a load of bad press. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... ship-deal/ The last Semi final we had was in 2017, then the RFL changed stance on them and started choosing bigger venues for double headers, you can't blame the board for that. Internationals? non in 2020. 2019 was the GB tour down under, 2018 the NZ tour was at the usual bigger venues, Kcomm, Elland road etc. we only usually get the slightly smaller International matches. Due to capacity. Like this year, host venue for the PNG side, 3 group matches for the World Cup, and it was just announced in the last 2 weeks, we're hosting the england vs Exiles game https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... face-wales This was part of my disagreement with Lord tony smith the other week, i dont disagree about on the pitch, price should be long gone, but people have a dislike of KF, and will beat him with any stick, usually inaccurate. Some tool on FB after this week's game was lambasting him, apparently all he's interested in is opening a restaurant????? So for some (as above) he's letting the business side down, for others, he's focusing far too much on the business side of things. He can't win. [size=50PS price should be gone.[/size EDIT he also made a packet for the club shop with the o'neills deal in the first year, the away shirt and the training rage and the leisure wear.

Quote ="Barbed Wire"Correct about Gatcliffe. Not just the on the coaching/recruitment side but the whole business. Bear in mind when he left we were sponsored by Fly Emirates, had just completed a successful marketing/media blitz by flying to Aus in pre-season which put us in good standing to get into the World Club competition and had a healthy crowd and season ticket base. Would routinely get event matches (cup semi finals, internationals). We were establishing ourselves as a premier club. Now, realistically, we’re an ‘also ran’ team. I think realistically, the overriding emotion if we won the Grand Final would be shock, whereas in 2011 to 2013,14,15, 16 it was almost an expectation. What we were building under Gatcliffe and Smith has been washed away. People will call me a hopeless romantic, but I would try and get the band back together. Bring Gatcliffe in, even in a non-executive role, to give the whole club some direction. Then try to lure Tony Smith in as a Director of Rugby. From there put all of our eggs in a young, promising head coach who has some affiliation and loyalty to the club (which realistically helps to get fans inside early doors in what would be a transitional period). I’d go Briers.'" Just re the fly emirates sponsorship, yes it was prestigious but whilst the interim(uncle rog) let things slide, they were pulling back on sponsorship. The flip side, we now have hoover, which financially is a bigger package than the fly emirates deal. Dont forget gatcliffe's last sponsoship deal as he walked out the door and got the club a load of bad press. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... ship-deal/ The last Semi final we had was in 2017, then the RFL changed stance on them and started choosing bigger venues for double headers, you can't blame the board for that. Internationals? non in 2020. 2019 was the GB tour down under, 2018 the NZ tour was at the usual bigger venues, Kcomm, Elland road etc. we only usually get the slightly smaller International matches. Due to capacity. Like this year, host venue for the PNG side, 3 group matches for the World Cup, and it was just announced in the last 2 weeks, we're hosting the england vs Exiles game https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... face-wales This was part of my disagreement with Lord tony smith the other week, i dont disagree about on the pitch, price should be long gone, but people have a dislike of KF, and will beat him with any stick, usually inaccurate. Some tool on FB after this week's game was lambasting him, apparently all he's interested in is opening a restaurant????? So for some (as above) he's letting the business side down, for others, he's focusing far too much on the business side of things. He can't win. [size=50PS price should be gone.[/size EDIT he also made a packet for the club shop with the o'neills deal in the first year, the away shirt and the training rage and the leisure wear.

Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just re the fly emirates sponsorship, yes it was prestigious but whilst the interim(uncle rog) let things slide, they were pulling back on sponsorship. The flip side, we now have hoover, which financially is a bigger package than the fly emirates deal. Dont forget gatcliffe's last sponsoship deal as he walked out the door and got the club a load of bad press. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... ship-deal/ The last Semi final we had was in 2017, then the RFL changed stance on them and started choosing bigger venues for double headers, you can't blame the board for that. Internationals? non in 2020. 2019 was the GB tour down under, 2018 the NZ tour was at the usual bigger venues, Kcomm, Elland road etc. we only usually get the slightly smaller International matches. Due to capacity. Like this year, host venue for the PNG side, 3 group matches for the World Cup, and it was just announced in the last 2 weeks, we're hosting the england vs Exiles game https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... face-wales This was part of my disagreement with Lord tony smith the other week, i dont disagree about on the pitch, price should be long gone, but people have a dislike of KF, and will beat him with any stick, usually inaccurate. Some tool on FB after this week's game was lambasting him, apparently all he's interested in is opening a restaurant????? So for some (as above) he's letting the business side down, for others, he's focusing far too much on the business side of things. He can't win. [size=50PS price should be gone.[/size EDIT he also made a packet for the club shop with the o'neills deal in the first year, the away shirt and the training rage and the leisure wear.'" Fair response. We look back and associate success with good business. I still do believe that the balance was best struck with Gatcliffe at the helm. While KF has advanced the social media aspect, which should be recognised, it seems from the outside looking in that the club is lacking purpose and direction. It seemed ever evolving with Gatcliffe and co. with the new stadium, which was rapidly filling up, and extended. We’ve just stood still for a while, and the prospect of filling the stadium is just just unthinkable. We need an identity, a complete philosophy throughout the club. At the minute, we are a gimmick club, great humour on social media and star signings but all quite baseless.

Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just re the fly emirates sponsorship, yes it was prestigious but whilst the interim(uncle rog) let things slide, they were pulling back on sponsorship. The flip side, we now have hoover, which financially is a bigger package than the fly emirates deal. Dont forget gatcliffe's last sponsoship deal as he walked out the door and got the club a load of bad press. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... ship-deal/ The last Semi final we had was in 2017, then the RFL changed stance on them and started choosing bigger venues for double headers, you can't blame the board for that. Internationals? non in 2020. 2019 was the GB tour down under, 2018 the NZ tour was at the usual bigger venues, Kcomm, Elland road etc. we only usually get the slightly smaller International matches. Due to capacity. Like this year, host venue for the PNG side, 3 group matches for the World Cup, and it was just announced in the last 2 weeks, we're hosting the england vs Exiles game https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... face-wales This was part of my disagreement with Lord tony smith the other week, i dont disagree about on the pitch, price should be long gone, but people have a dislike of KF, and will beat him with any stick, usually inaccurate. Some tool on FB after this week's game was lambasting him, apparently all he's interested in is opening a restaurant????? So for some (as above) he's letting the business side down, for others, he's focusing far too much on the business side of things. He can't win. [size=50PS price should be gone.[/size EDIT he also made a packet for the club shop with the o'neills deal in the first year, the away shirt and the training rage and the leisure wear.'" Fair response. We look back and associate success with good business. I still do believe that the balance was best struck with Gatcliffe at the helm. While KF has advanced the social media aspect, which should be recognised, it seems from the outside looking in that the club is lacking purpose and direction. It seemed ever evolving with Gatcliffe and co. with the new stadium, which was rapidly filling up, and extended. We’ve just stood still for a while, and the prospect of filling the stadium is just just unthinkable. We need an identity, a complete philosophy throughout the club. At the minute, we are a gimmick club, great humour on social media and star signings but all quite baseless.

I honestly don't care about any of the sideshow stuff, social media etc. The best way to grow the brand is a successful team or a playing identity that people enjoy so they want to watch the team even if it's not their own and we don't have either of those things. A Facebook or twitter gimmick will not provide any long terms gains, it may tune a few in for a game but they will soon turn off with what they see on the pitch.

If KFP is serious about growing the brand then he needs a successful and entertaining team, none of the other stuff means a thing without that. His priorities seem to be about headline grabbing and its why it's not working IMO. Bring us Powell and Trueman, make a change at the top if we lose 2 of the next 3, remove the apathy about poor performances and maybe, just maybe they will become a thing of the past.

Anyone watching Melbourne this morning?

Who knew having a small, rapid, supporting fullback improves a team?

We'd have to break the line first though to enable Ashton to support. He'd be in for a long wait.

Ashton has not even made the squad, he’s either injured or Price ain’t a clue what he is doing !!

Perfect conditions, dry pitch yeah he's probably dropped him

5 props though, gung ho all out attack.

Granny has been down there all with the first team to make sure I don’t have to eat my words. She done good.

Cas looking good against Leeds so far. If Powell really does come I hope we can stump up some cash for Trueman.