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| Maybe King will start in the second row if Holmes fails with his appeal. I'm not saying it's what I would do - I rate Longstaff and would like to see him given a go. I guess it remains to be seen if Powell regards King as someone who can fill in at second row, or if that was just a Steve Price thing.
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| i'm in two minds, as much as i like longstaff, he'll be going up against kenny edwards, who ripped us a couple of times for the giants last year, granted that right side is a bit bigger now overall, maybe its not as much of a worry.
totally against king as a back row, as i was last year.
dean might be coming in as bench hooker
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| Quote ="The Speculator"Maybe King will start in the second row if Holmes fails with his appeal. I'm not saying it's what I would do - I rate Longstaff and would like to see him given a go. I guess it remains to be seen if Powell regards King as someone who can fill in at second row, or if that was just a Steve Price thing.'"
King has looked good when he's played second row. He will probably do a cullen/Darbyshire and switch there permanently in a few years when he loses a yard of pace(especially when he's not got express pace to start with!). I still want to see longstaff playing this week though. I'm a massive fan and he'd be in my 17 every single week even if everyone is fit.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"King has looked good when he's played second row. He will probably do a cullen/Darbyshire and switch there permanently in a few years when he loses a yard of pace(especially when he's not got express pace to start with!). I still want to see longstaff playing this week though. I'm a massive fan and he'd be in my 17 every single week even if everyone is fit.'"
did you see the games where he played there last year and was naff, moe?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"did you see the games where he played there last year and was naff, moe?'"
Yes I did, and he wasn't naff. He was pretty poor at centre though for the entire second half of the season.
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| Slight off topic, but regarding King’s pace, he’s pretty fast just not from a standing start. Once he’s into his stride though he’s fine.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Yes I did, and he wasn't naff. He was pretty poor at centre though for the entire second half of the season.'"
he was pretty naff, a lot of bods were clamouring for him to play right second row after filling in one time in 19 or 20, and having a good game.
Every time he's filled in since he was pap.
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| Not all that confident for this one. After our woeful performance against Salford (we were bad) and the fact its Powell im predicting a big wire win. Hoping I'm wrong mind.
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| The only person I’d be worried for if Longstaff was to take the field against Edwards would be Edwards. I’ll be very disappointed if Longstaff is not in that 17 on Thursday. I’ve no bias other than the fact that I love him deeply.
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| Wrench was involved in a couple tries but reckon even he wouldn't be completely happy with his game.
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| Perhaps not but Wrench did more in that game (a game in which we were poor) than King managed in the last 10 games of the season. I would never wish to agree with Saddened but he’s right King has to earn that shirt back and be patient. Wrench currently sits as the best performing centre of the three…matautia will need to improve also.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Perhaps not but Wrench did more in that game (a game in which we were poor) than King managed in the last 10 games of the season. I would never wish to agree with Saddened but he’s right King has to earn that shirt back and be patient. Wrench currently sits as the best performing centre of the three…matautia will need to improve also.'"
Looks like Wrench is in line to keep his spot according to the Warrington Guardian. Interesting that Powell refers to his pace and footwork as potentially taking him to the top. When he got the ball from Currie on Saturday it was a combination of those things that enabled him to get Ashton away. It wasn’t as if we’d particularly stretched the defensive line at that point. Could well be up against Mamo on Thursday.
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| Quote ="Kevin Turvey"Looks like Wrench is in line to keep his spot according to the Warrington Guardian. Interesting that Powell refers to his pace and footwork as potentially taking him to the top. When he got the ball from Currie on Saturday it was a combination of those things that enabled him to get Ashton away. It wasn’t as if we’d particularly stretched the defensive line at that point. Could well be up against Mamo on Thursday.'"
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| It wasn't Charnley or Austin then?
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| 4 match ban for Holmes according to TRL. Or is that just BS? Thought the appeal would be heard tomorrow?
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| Quote ="easyWire"4 match ban for Holmes according to TRL. Or is that just BS? Thought the appeal would be heard tomorrow?'"
The appeal is tonight but not seen any news yet. But according to WG it could be extended if the panel feels the appeal is frivolous.
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| Quote ="karetaker"The appeal is tonight but not seen any news yet. But according to WG it could be extended if the panel feels the appeal is frivolous.'"
An extension by one match, but by three? That’s some example to set! Hope it’s not true.
EDIT: It’s Bentley that has had his ban extended to 4. I expect Holmes will get 2, and will miss Toulouse.
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| The panel cant back down on this one. I wouldnt have appealed
They have to set their stall out in week one.
Whilst the ban probably wont be rescinded, I hope the club present real grounds for appeal - but I cant see what they are.
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| Personally I would not of appealed, not like we short in that position.
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| Ban increased to 2 as deemed a frivolous appeal
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Ban increased to 2 as deemed a frivolous appeal'"
Just as well it’s only Toulouse he misses then.
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| Am I missing something? How is having a ban extended for apparently having the audacity to question the original punishment or the temerity to argue your case ethical or democratic?
Whatever next? Public floggings in the centre circle at half time for questioning the video refs grammar?
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| I think the ball that Wrench threw that ended up in touch was a bit of a 50/50. Between him and Ashton. Ok. Wrench should have known where his winger was but on the same token I dont think his winger should have been 5 yards behind him.
Unless I am mistaken I dont recall the pass being a mile forward.
I reckon that has been practiced dozens of time preseason.
Also the play near the end of the game when Wrench nearly put Ashton away was perhaps a dumb play but again on the same token Ashton should have caught it and was under the sticks.
So for me it is 50/50.
At some point king will be back in the team but it wouldn't surprise me to see Wrench on the wing at some point . Powell did that a bit with Shenton and Turner.
If Ashton plays this week then he will be up against Mamo. That would be a foot race I would pay to see but hopefully Mano trying to track down Ashton
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Ban increased to 2 as deemed a frivolous appeal'"
Mr. Cullen is obviously as keen as all of us to see longstaff in the starting line up.
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| Keep the Squad the same and put either Longstaff or Ellis Robson in the second row. I love King but i agree he should wait until Wrench stops performing until he gets his spot back......and my god are we back to the stupid "King to second row" comments again
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