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| Quote ="Shabino"Don't think they want him. They are saying Greenwood is a better player if they can get him fit.'"
It's more an issue of dedication and willingness with Greenwood. Most of us think he is a superb player. We signed him unfit but he came straight in and played brilliantly but since Lam has come in something has gone very wrong. Nobody seems to know what.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The Gelling issue and injury to Ashton, highlighted a dropped bollox. Livett in our squad, on the bench even, would have covered our backs.
He’s the one of very few players if any that can play and position except prop...and not just a cover, but as well as almost any player in there position in SL.
That is one very handy string to have in a bow.
Get him back and on our bench...that’s 1234567,9,11,12,13 all covered. Loaning him out was the biggest brain fart other than failing to land a big prop, that’s happened since trying to sign a player, Roberts, that clearly didn’t want to come here.'"
But you signed Mamo to do that job. Honestly can't see why the Warrington coaching staff don't see Livett's potential.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"But you signed Mamo to do that job. Honestly can't see why the Warrington coaching staff don't see Livett's potential.'"
I dunno... perhaps they get to see him everyday in training, or something??
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BMM possibly with a loan deal to the Warriors this season?
I'd be ok with it, assuming he came back here once our season was back up and running, could mean we have a battle hardened BMM to come straight back in. Concern would be whether we would be able to get him back. Although if we get a fee that we can use to bring in Josh Jones / MckMeeken early.....?
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-know ... 54v5g.html
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BMM possibly with a loan deal to the Warriors this season?
I'd be ok with it, assuming he came back here once our season was back up and running, could mean we have a battle hardened BMM to come straight back in. Concern would be whether we would be able to get him back. Although if we get a fee that we can use to bring in Josh Jones / MckMeeken early.....?
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-know ... 54v5g.html
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"But you signed Mamo to do that job. Honestly can't see why the Warrington coaching staff don't see Livett's potential.'"
Agree.
It is a bit of a mystery as to what has "gone wrong" with Harvey but as the "Slot" says we don't see him in training every day., Having said that, neither to our coaches as he is on loan at HKR but you know what I mean. Looked like a great prospect when he first broke through
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Quote ="Alffi_7"BMM possibly with a loan deal to the Warriors this season?
I'd be ok with it, assuming he came back here once our season was back up and running, could mean we have a battle hardened BMM to come straight back in. Concern would be whether we would be able to get him back. Although if we get a fee that we can use to bring in Josh Jones / MckMeeken early.....?
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-know ... 54v5g.html'"
I suspect we would wan't a pretty decent fee to offset the loss should he get injured over there.
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Quote ="Alffi_7"BMM possibly with a loan deal to the Warriors this season?
I'd be ok with it, assuming he came back here once our season was back up and running, could mean we have a battle hardened BMM to come straight back in. Concern would be whether we would be able to get him back. Although if we get a fee that we can use to bring in Josh Jones / MckMeeken early.....?
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-know ... 54v5g.html'"
I suspect we would wan't a pretty decent fee to offset the loss should he get injured over there.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"It's more an issue of dedication and willingness with Greenwood. Most of us think he is a superb player. We signed him unfit but he came straight in and played brilliantly but since Lam has come in something has gone very wrong. Nobody seems to know what.'"
Sounds like a really wierd one. Couple oy years ago I thought Greenwood, Savelio and Currie would be the cornerstone of the GB pack for years to come.
Two have had some horrific injuries, Greenwood is a complete enigma. People have been questioning whether he's tough enough...
Jury out. Shame he never got a few games for us.
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| Matt Davis is being strongly linked with a move to Catalans!
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| Quote ="Mighty_Wires88"Matt Davis is being strongly linked with a move to Catalans!'"
No issue. Bring back Harvey, plenty more strings to his bow.
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| It's difficult to criticise Davis because he works his socks off on the pitch, but unfortunately he is just too small. If he gets a better deal from another club then so be it, after all we do have youngsters that need to be tested ( Ellis Robson, Eribe Doro) and as Ducky says Livett may finally break through, although after 40-50 games for us he is leaving it a bit late. We also have Luis Johnson, Latu, Luther Burrell and Samy Kibula floating around, although none of those inspire me with a great deal of confidence atm. We have too many 'projects' and not enough squad players with 'exciting potential'.
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| Hope we don't allow an agent to get a massive deal for their player again. He's a useful player but I wouldn't pay over the odds to keep him.
From the Academy for the back row we've also got Connor Wrench, Jacob Gannon, Ellis Longstaff and Kieran Rennox who have all played for England.
With us needing to play midweek games you'd expect that some youngsters will break through at all clubs.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"It's difficult to criticise Davis because he works his socks off on the pitch, but unfortunately he is just too small. If he gets a better deal from another club then so be it, after all we do have youngsters that need to be tested ( Ellis Robson, Eribe Doro) and as Ducky says Livett may finally break through, although after 40-50 games for us he is leaving it a bit late. We also have Luis Johnson, Latu, Luther Burrell and Samy Kibula floating around, although none of those inspire me with a great deal of confidence atm. We have too many 'projects' and not enough squad players with 'exciting potential'.'"
Totally agree with Robson and Doro needed to be tested . Robson is a bigger,quicker ready made replacement for Davis . Doro is that aggressive type prop like Matty lees from saints who can come on in a game and really put himself about.Both have been at the club since being 15 which I think is also a bonus for the academy/player pathway
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| ref Currie, i had an email from a friend, who said
Warrington have offered Currie a new contract on reduced wages, which he isnt happy with. There has been contact with Wigan and Saints. Saints have already offered a contract with more on the table than Warrington. With Warrington refusing to increase the original offer, it looks like a departure is on the cards. The player favours a move to Wigan, but its unknown if they will match the offer that saints have made.
Warrington have all but sealed deals for 2 other SL backrowers, 1 of them is done, the 2nd one cant be finalised until the Currie situation is sorted out.
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| That's very interesting MD, any news on the arrival of a prop, I wonder?
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"
Warrington have all but sealed deals for 2 other SL backrowers, 1 of them is done, the 2nd one cant be finalised until the Currie situation is sorted out.'"
Is our cunning plan to eventually play 13 backrowers for crying out loud.
Here's an idea ..... why don't we sign a flipping prop ???!?!?!?
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| Quote ="The Railwayman"Is our cunning plan to eventually play 13 backrowers for crying out loud.
Here's an idea ..... why don't we sign a flipping prop ???!?!?!?'"
Ha ha ha it's unreal how hard it is for us to sign a prop, well a good one anyway.
I assume with the rumours it's McMeeken and another unknown. Josh Jones said he didn't know where the rumours have come from and is committed to Hull. So i don't think it's him.
Prop wise we're running with Hill, Cooper, Philbin which i'm happy with. Akauola who i love but is simply a low minutes impact prop, Leilani Latu who does seem to be a panic buy as we were knocked back by 3 props and he appeared to be the last resort, and Sammy Kibula...........oh dear.
Excuse me if i've forgotten anyone.
I messaged an NRL journalist via instagram about Latu and if he was worth a punt or a dud. He simply replied "he's a very very poor player and has done nothing in the past 3 years" so unless he magically turns his whole game around he's a crap signing, who can't get fit.....even though literally his whole career is fitness based.
Other than Josh Jones ( who could still happen you never know) Who would you guys want?
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Imagine. Maybe his cousin Ashton Sims could have a word.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Ha ha ha it's unreal how hard it is for us to sign a prop, well a good one anyway.
I assume with the rumours it's McMeeken and another unknown. Josh Jones said he didn't know where the rumours have come from and is committed to Hull. So i don't think it's him.
Prop wise we're running with Hill, Cooper, Philbin which i'm happy with. Akauola who i love but is simply a low minutes impact prop, Leilani Latu who does seem to be a panic buy as we were knocked back by 3 props and he appeared to be the last resort, and Sammy Kibula...........oh dear.
Excuse me if i've forgotten anyone.
I messaged an NRL journalist via instagram about Latu and if he was worth a punt or a dud. He simply replied "he's a very very poor player and has done nothing in the past 3 years" so unless he magically turns his whole game around he's a crap signing, who can't get fit.....even though literally his whole career is fitness based.
Other than Josh Jones ( who could still happen you never know) Who would you guys want?'"
Agreed, Hill Cooper & Philbin i'm happy with, ideally you need 4 props in a matchday squad, I have serious reservations over Latu, especially given the comments on him by Price. I hope he has used this period of not playing to work on his personal fitness, otherwise I'm not sure he will ever play for us. Sita I'm ok with as a 5th prop to cover injury / suspension, although really I would rather a home grown player was used - we seem a bit light on props coming through though? End of 2021 we will have Sita and Hill off contract, Hill will be 34 by that point so tough decisions may need to be made, but our 'prop situation' looks like it will be an on going issue.
On Currie, I hope he stays, he seemed to be finding form before season suspension but I think Price prefers the crash ball type second rower, so McMeeken / Jones may fit that role better, it would be a big loss for us however I feel and one that I think would come back to haunt us. Toby King could well step up to be a very good back rower, so he too could be an option.
Bit disappointed if he does leave, due to the support he has been given, but he more than most knows that rugby league wont be around forever for him so he needs to get the most out of it financially while he can.
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| With McMeeken, unless he's dead set on second row, and IF we have signed him, he could transition to prop VERY easily in my oppinion. he's 6'5 and 16st already and 26 years old so he can still fill out. Might be a long shot but he has the size and strength for it? I would like an out and out prop though not another second rower/prop. Maybe inglis could sway a few heads our way for the prop position
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| Quote ="Saintflyer13"Totally agree with Robson and Doro needed to be tested . Robson is a bigger,quicker ready made replacement for Davis . Doro is that aggressive type prop like Matty lees from saints who can come on in a game and really put himself about.Both have been at the club since being 15 which I think is also a bonus for the academy/player pathway'"
Shirley Matty Lees is no prop. He’s only stepped up from 3/4 to backrow as he received that terrible injury.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"ref Currie, i had an email from a friend, who said
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Imagine being a Saints fan reading this
Warrington, who know most about his long-term fitness outlook, are only willing to keep him on a reduced contract and unwilling to negotiate. He would rather go to Wigan, but is using Saints as a way to leverage a higher contract from them. If he doesn't get what he wants from Wire or Wigan, Saints are his fallback.
Saints are that 6/10 that you keep on the go on tinder in case the other two you're dating find out about each other.
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| According to Forty20 Leeds are sniffing around Currie now. Wonder who’s next to be linked? Bit of a merry go round isn’t it...
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Imagine being a Saints fan reading this
Warrington, who know most about his long-term fitness outlook, are only willing to keep him on a reduced contract and unwilling to negotiate. He would rather go to Wigan, but is using Saints as a way to leverage a higher contract from them. If he doesn't get what he wants from Wire or Wigan, Saints are his fallback.
Saints are =#FF0000that 6/10 that you keep on the go on tinder in case the other two you're dating find out about each other.'"
Naughty, naughty SC, you should know better and ought to be social distancing, not dating multiple partners at the same time.
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