I assume As Bennet coached him at brisbane that he doesn't feel he's good enough?

I think you'll find he is a championship player now and no SL club has come in for him so far even though he's a freebie.

Must be, he's hardly the same Greg Eden that left for brisbane though. I think he's earnt it this season,mcgilvary is decent but I'd have taken briscoe over him as well.

But when he returned from his coke ban he was straight back in the Wigan side. Then to Widnes then, if I’m not mistaken, Salford.

Eureka I figured it out, Kevin Brown is going to Australia on a convict ship for doing a wages snatch Wolves RL

Shaul is prone to an error, lacks size and doesn't have a great rugby brain... not exactly international standard.

Same could be said for quite a few though.

It doesn’t really make a mockery of it because not enough people care about it to know about the in depth knowledge of that kind of thing

He must think he's won the lottery.Up there for me with our worst signings.Mind you spends more time off the pitch than on it.Get rid I'd say.

There in lays SL's lack of quality

Currie gets a squad place, after just a handful of games in 13 months.

...and as for Brown.....words fail me
The fact he's ANYWHERE near this squad, simply highlights SL's shortcomings. Pathetic. He couldn't even shine in the worst Wire side in 15 years.

The lack of 4 big Wigan names? Something smells.I'll wager Monkey Man has been on the blower to Red Hall, asking for them NOT to be included, so they can have a full winter off, so they are fresher, come February. They are big names in our sport. They've probably thought we've no chance, and asked their mum's for a sick note, so the can "wag off" games.
Remember the days of the early 90's? If you were British and played for Wigan, you got a GB jersey. Cast your minds back to 1991/2. Billy Mcginty struggled to get a sub's bench spot for us. He goes to Wigan, and hey presto, he's on the 'plane to Oz, and gets a starting Test spot.
I've heard about Jesus' miracles. Turns out, John Monie was capable of them to. Billy Lazarus. Risen from the dead, to Test Match RL.

Clearly current form didn't play a major part in the decision making process (I base this judgement purely on the Wire contingent).

Genuine question for you wire fans

Would you have picked any of your players in the side? For me the only player I would have taken was Hill

Its great when your paranoia about Wigan is so strong that you can explain Wigan players either getting picked or not picked as a conspiracy

Brown and Ratchford definitely..
They was both was fantastic in their shock England call ups...however Currie out all season and Hill I question. Hill escapes all criticism yet has been pants and one 6th the reason Brown has struggled.

I'm behind all 4 and hope they bring the faith Bennett has back for 2018.

Only Ratchford and only because white line fever from over the hills is out.

Currie and Hill are clearly International material but if you're picking on form, then Hill should be no where near and Currie has only played 3/4 games.

That said, I know us supporters always say "should pick on form", but you've also got to take your best crew to have a chance. For example, Watts has had a much better year than Hill but would I want him in my matchday 17 v Aus over Hill, not a chance.

Brown looks an awful call but he's preformed every time for England under Bennet.

Brown looks an awful call but he's preformed every time for England under Bennet.'"

Do you genuinely believe this?

Some Widnes supporter friends of mine also said he picked his games when playing for them.

Well Brown has had two games against international quality opposition this season and had very good games in both. It's not rocket science to see why he's been picked.

Currie i would take as he is absolute class, Hill - not on this season's form but will probably produce for his country, Ratchford - I'm not his biggest fan by any means but played well against Samoa and adds utility value.

We're clearly a big club now anyway when our players start getting picked for their country when they shouldn't be!!

Looking at the forwards, at best Hill will only get a bench spot.

More than he deserves on current form.

he.s 100% right on this as are most of his posts unlike some on here who post long winded drivell..mginty did bulk up and did have a decent tour but after that did sod all..as for this comp give it the aussies now...walk over

awwww shucks, s a m



No Wigan paranoia from me.
If people don't realise that the omission of TomkinsJ and Farrell (both rampaging runners) and Burgess (scores tries for fun) smell a little, then that's their funeral. TomkinsS, I grant you, hasn't had the best of seasons, but STILL is one of the few English players that possess the " X-factor" and is worth a squad place. Did Monkey Man and the Wigan board request their non selection? I wouldn't put it past them.

As for the selection of McGinty all those years ago.. The world's great minds are still scratching their heads. In those days, if you were British and played for Wigan, you got a GB jersey, regardless of form/quality /reputation.

See. No paranoia. Just looking at the situation, level headed.

I'd question whether Joel Tomkins is good enough for the Wigan team, let alone an England squad.

As for Farrell, I probably wouldn't want to take both Farrell and Bateman on tour together, both very good SL players, but I'd question whether a back row of Farrell and Bateman was big enough for international RL.

Burgess I probably would have taken - seems strange to only take two wingers in a squad, although Hall and McGilvray have performed well on the international stage in the past - i'd have both in before Burgess.

Of the full backs that have missed out, Shaul can count himself unlucky. Both him and Ratch ahead of STomkins, not sure why Lomax has travelled.

I'm not going to question Bennett.
He has a squad that he feels is the best he can muster to topple Aus.
It says to me one thing, if you're the skinnier, smaller, weaker of your position...you aren't going to feature.....the golden rule applies...a big good un, always beats a small good un....so no place for Burgess or Tompkins.

Burgess and Shaul maybe should have gone but they are not head and shoulders above who have gone more an equivalent replacement so I don't think their omissions will affect the result.


After we beat nz in the test series a few years back under macnamara I was hopefully of a good four nations showing and maybe a surprise at the World Cup we had a team that looked promising and young players looking to break into the team. I believed at the time Roby and sol's time in the England gb setup was numbered sol is still in it and Roby has been recalled! Maybe on merit but it's a concern that in this time nobody has come along and knocked them out of the team.