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| Powell now back blaming the players and not the fans, this time admitting concern over HIS players. Are some tough enough?Some are going to need lots of help….wonder if Peanut is one of them?
Strange how he gave a two year extension and captaincy to one of the most mentally brittle of our players.
Again it seems as if all the problems are nothing to do with him. He’s a bizarre man, I’m amazed he did well at Cas.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Powell now back blaming the players and not the fans, this time admitting concern over HIS players. Are some tough enough?Some are going to need lots of help….wonder if Peanut is one of them?
Strange how he gave a two year extension and captaincy to one of the most mentally brittle of our players.
Again it seems as if all the problems are nothing to do with him. He’s a bizarre man, I’m amazed he did well at Cas.'"
Perhaps the team did well at Cas in spite of the coaching staff.
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| Quote ="ninearches"It is very baffling that a board of directors would bring in a hatchet man to prune a team so thoroughly with the outcome that results & performances have become so shambolic. People with money invested & hoping to attract customers are giving the impression of wanting to commit financial suicide.
Non compliant players could easily have been weeded out at contract renewal time without alienating the fans & turning the playing squads confidence to ground level.'"
Agree that a more organic plan of changing the squad could have been applied, as the result is another unbalanced squad, and we've swapped the bad apple culture for a losing culture. As Barbed Wire posted above, where's the identity and direction of the team/club? Also, the plan seems to be make it up as we go along with the numerous mid season changes. We have far from made the most of this transitional year - even wasted it, and financially, the club is facing a very, very tough sell to get tickets and merchandising sold going forward. Supporters are going to be depressed enough about the cost of living and finding another £4k to £5k for gas/electricity, and will take a lot of enticing into the the ground, to watch performances like we've been served up this year. There's a lot of work to be done, and the board should be far from happy.
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| Every penny counts now and people will have to be really judicious how they spend whats left of their disposable income - if anything - after paying for energy bills. People were already frustrated that watching Wire was poor value for money in the Price era, when we were still mostly winning.
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| Fans will always show up for games, i here week in week out about fans not going to another game and always turn up.
Next year is definately Powells Squad and they'll fully buy in to his coaching. The divas and bog standard players ( well most) have been moved on and he's signed a big aggressive pack that will be dominant, and we have some pure speed littered around the squad. The Likes of Clark, Dufty, williams, Ashton and currie etc will shift up a gear running off our pack and we'll be class.
We need to keep Wardle and need a new good half ( Brandon Wakeham apparently) and i think we're set for next year.
New year, New squad, New attitude. We'll be flying next year
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| Quote ="Or thane"Fans will always show up for games, i here week in week out about fans not going to another game and always turn up.
Next year is definately Powells Squad and they'll fully buy in to his coaching. The divas and bog standard players ( well most) have been moved on and he's signed a big aggressive pack that will be dominant, and we have some pure speed littered around the squad. The Likes of Clark, Dufty, williams, Ashton and currie etc will shift up a gear running off our pack and we'll be class.
We need to keep Wardle and need a new good half ( Brandon Wakeham apparently) and i think we're set for next year.
New year, New squad, New attitude. We'll be flying next year
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As an outsider, fully agree with this. Give Powell 3’years minimum and you’ll be flying. Rebuilding a club takes time …….
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| I think half a dozen games at most regardless of opposition should give us a insight about what is to come.
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| Quote ="The Railwayman"I think half a dozen games at most regardless of opposition should give us a insight about what is to come.'"
I think we all know what is to come. If we give this absolute clown of a 'coach' 6 games then we'll end up 2 or 3 wins behind leigh and Wakefield and the new coach will be in another relegation scrap. Sack the muppet now and don't let him get his hands on the new recruits for pre season.
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| Perhaps the club should sell season tickets on an improvement or return basis for 2023.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Fans will always show up for games, i here week in week out about fans not going to another game and always turn up.
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The realities of life are going to be very different next year as the price spikes will force people into tough life decisions who previously would have been insulated from the worst of it. Heat or eat or watch Wire get beat.
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| This forum is really deteriorating into a tedious, repetitive borefest, isn't it?..
Every post seems to turn into the same old depressives moaning about how the club is being run, whether at board or coaching level.
Fellas, what about logging off to February, find a hobby or two and just learn to find some positives in life - Crying about a rugby team isn't how you be needing to spend your hours, honestly...
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"This forum is really deteriorating into a tedious, repetitive borefest, isn't it?..
Every post seems to turn into the same old depressives moaning about how the club is being run, whether at board or coaching level.
Fellas, what about logging off to February, find a hobby or two and just learn to find some positives in life - Crying about a rugby team isn't how you be needing to spend your hours, honestly...
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Totally with you on this. Mind you a few have had the "same old depressive moan" for the last ten years. It's how we are.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"This forum is really deteriorating into a tedious, repetitive borefest, isn't it?..
Every post seems to turn into the same old depressives moaning about how the club is being run, whether at board or coaching level.
Fellas, what about logging off to February, find a hobby or two and just learn to find some positives in life - Crying about a rugby team isn't how you be needing to spend your hours, honestly...
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You are correct, it is tedious and painful. The in-fighting and slagging each other off is grim too. But, in the interests of perspective, it is hardly unexpected after the season we have had which is the worst in a generation. A lot of people feel duped, frustrated and embarrassed.
In terms of positives for 2023 I am looking forward to seeing how our new pack perform next season. It may be the first time in a decade we have a truly fearsome pack with a bit of mongrel about it.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"This forum is really deteriorating into a tedious, repetitive borefest, isn't it?..
Every post seems to turn into the same old depressives moaning about how the club is being run, whether at board or coaching level.
Fellas, what about logging off to February, find a hobby or two and just learn to find some positives in life - Crying about a rugby team isn't how you be needing to spend your hours, honestly...
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It really is, I agree.
From here on in the disillusioned ones amongst us will bow to your greater experience and foresight. We now understand that Mr Powell and his handpicked coaching team have so far picked out the real bad apples in the squad, they just wanted menace and didn't want to win trophies at all.
The coaching squad have developed training and development programmes building improved personal and team skills in combination with game plans individually developed to ensure we win against the best the competition can pitch us against. The fact we have lost an inordinate number of games is unfortunate but will set us up bigger and stronger for our subsequent seasons.
The casual criticism of individual players by Mr Powell, especially the younger ones making their way in the game is for their benefit, if we break their confidence now, they simply were not good enough for us the mighty Wire.
We have a number of new recruits joining us next year which is good news. They have plenty of grey haired experience and what may seem like a SAGA holiday for Aussie forwards will provided us with the hard headed grunt up front which we need and completely change the culture sadly lacking for several years.
Now this may take 2 or 3 years to develop us into a team of world beaters, Rome wasn't built in a day, we will stand by Mr Powell regardless of what happens to results because we know he is the best coach Warrington could acquire, we are lucky to have him and should not criticise him if once again he gives us reasons for another loss which are of course always just and fair.
Thus, with us all singing from the same hymn sheet, this forum will be a much happier and creative place. Disagreements will stop and our lives will be enriched by not being questioned by the trouble makers who have a different point of view.
Long live the King, Mr Powell.
There you go, fixed it for you. Sunny uplands here we come. Join the queue for next years season tickets and Grand Final, or possibly the year after, or the year after that....
Yours happily.
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| Could the critical & confrontational atmosphere on the forum have been tempered by the club announcing ,on Powell's appointment that his remit was to strip the squad back to basics & rebuild in the mode of DP ? Or would that have hit season ticket sales ?
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| Quote ="ninearches"Could the critical & confrontational atmosphere on the forum have been tempered by the club announcing ,on Powell's appointment that his remit was to strip the squad back to basics & rebuild in the mode of DP ? Or would that have hit season ticket sales ?'"
Well it will certainly hit season ticket sales for next year.....and by the time the Powell's 3 year plan comes to fruition in 2024 the club will make a fortune because there will be minimal season ticket sales and everyone will be paying full price on the door on matchday, just like I did this year for the games I was able to attend....
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| Is Warrington too big of a club for Powell?
Is the like of Cas within his depth?
Asking for a friend.
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| Powell did a similar hatchet job and did a mass clear-out at Leeds.
When he had done all the dirty work, Hetherington sacked him too and appointed Tony Smith.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Powell did a similar hatchet job and did a mass clear-out at Leeds.
When he had done all the dirty work, Hetherington sacked him too and appointed Tony Smith.'"
Some bosses are good at hatchet jobs but less successful at building winning teams, rugby or business.
Other bosses are successful at building good teams but poor at hatchet jobs.
Looks like Hetherington, who knows Powell very well, decided on the first option.
Will Warrington?
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| my real worry is the old “the operation was a TOTAL success, unfortunately the patient died.”
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"my real worry is the old “the operation was a TOTAL success, unfortunately the patient died.”'"
This patient has been in a vegetative state for ten years, with the occasional twitch of a finger.
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| I still think Powell is the right man for the job, and believe he has the right players next year.
My belief and positivity will keep me warm through a cold cold Winter
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| Quote ="Or thane"I still think Powell is the right man for the job, and believe he has the right players next year.
My belief and positivity will keep me warm through a cold cold Winter
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Great idea, a portion of Ready Brek and dose of delusion is the obvious panacea for rising heating bills.
BTW I'm only jesting OT I hope that your optimism is well founded and will wait till next year for my thoughts on Powell.
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| To be fair (and I don’t believe I’m saying this) but Rubber Duckie is right, packs win games. The money invested and not just the sheer size, but the experience brought in, we should bully our way into the top 6 (anything less is an abject failure), and if we can get any kind of system where Williams and Dufty get some good ball in space we could find ourselves in the mix by sheer dumb luck.
If we have a miraculous defensive improvement, find a kicking game and can get the ball to Ashton in space, we might even have something to look forward to.
Still, I’ll be saving my season ticket money this year. Invest it in memory loss juice instead…
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"To be fair (and I don’t believe I’m saying this) but Rubber Duckie is right, packs win games. The money invested and not just the sheer size, but the experience brought in, we should bully our way into the top 6 (anything less is an abject failure), and if we can get any kind of system where Williams and Dufty get some good ball in space we could find ourselves in the mix by sheer dumb luck.
If we have a miraculous defensive improvement, find a kicking game and can get the ball to Ashton in space, we might even have something to look forward to.
Still, I’ll be saving my season ticket money this year. Invest it in memory loss juice instead…'"
i dunno, i've questioned the Hull Fc mythical pack on here lots, their results have kinda proved me correct. i think there's a bit more to it than just big bodies.
we could do with come back rowers that tackle for the big bodies up front
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