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| Joel Monaghan. ^
Pat is very useful for his kicking and he is a very good winger, but Joel is a FANTASTIC finisher.
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| Quote ="JWarriors"Joel Monaghan. ^
Pat is very useful for his kicking and he is a very good winger, but Joel is a FANTASTIC finisher.'"
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| Quote ="JWarriors"And Charnley isn't, so it's a stupid argument.'"
then you can't say Charnley is by far the better player.
Who's better Carvell or Charnley?
Well if it was winger you'd say Charnley
If it was prop you'd say Carvell.
Riley is a good fullback and a great winger. I would argue that at the very least that makes him as good a player as Charnley, and maybe better (versatility over straight offense in one position)
Riley is arguably the better player but I would still rather have Charnley in the team and on the wing due to the damage he can do.
pretty simple.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Bull.
He's a reasonably better winger.
Charnley is a poop fullback (Can't catch, read a game or, sometimes, tackle)
Think next time.'"
Charnley has never played fullback.
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| I'd go for Riley, just. If Charnleys' defence was Ok then he'd pip Riley but it bobbins so.....
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| Another of them lob sided polls. 99% of Wire fans will say Riley and 99% of Wigan fans will say Josh. Don't see the point.
I'm a fan of Riley myself and actually said after the Ryan Hall intercept in the WCC that Riley is probably the only player in SL that I'd have backed to catch him.
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| Josh is a good finisher but defensively he's a liability. He'll need support from Sam, Pat, Darrell and the rest of the Wigan team (Gareth, Tommy, Brett, Sean) in most games this season.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Another of them lob sided polls. 99% of Wire fans will say Riley and 99% of Wigan fans will say Josh. Don't see the point.
I'm a fan of Riley myself and actually said after the Ryan Hall intercept in the WCC that Riley is probably the only player in SL that I'd have backed to catch him.'"
The poll suggests otherwise Conroy.
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| The stats dont lie, as I said, Riley is a good finisher but there's no way id swap him for Charnley.
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| Anyone remember the Richards full length try at pie dome, not sure if it was 2011 or 2010, Riley caught him but Richards weight took him over, if anyone has that on replay, look at Rileys starting position to appreciate just how quick he is, WOW.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Anyone remember the Richards full length try at pie dome, not sure if it was 2011 or 2010, Riley caught him but Richards weight took him over, if anyone has that on replay, look at Rileys starting position to appreciate just how quick he is, WOW.'"
There's no doubt he's very quick, but look at Charnley's pace on the CC quarter final try.
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| Quote ="just_browny"With his present haircut, Charnley would fit in better in my all-lesbian pop band.'"
he looks like somone off "my big fat gypsy wedding"
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| I'd say I want wingers to score tries, therefore I'm picking Kev Penny.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Bull.
He's a reasonably better winger.
Charnley is a poop fullback (Can't catch, read a game or, sometimes, tackle)
Think next time.'"
IN your opinion. IMO Charnley is now a better player and injuries allowing will develop to being a much much better player.
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| I don't want to talk for the OP but I think the wording is very specific in this question.
A lot of people are talking about the pros and cons of each player on the wing.
I think we are all in agreement that charnley is either marginally or vastly better than riley on the wing (depending on whetjer you are a wire or a pie) but we must remember that riley is a more well rounded player than charnley and covers more varied positions and has better defense.
I feel the question addresses the issue of having a more prolific try scorer in the short term over a more well rounded player. Having a solely attacking orientated winger over more reliable winger.
It is a good question and I would love the question to be asked again in, say, 3 seasons. The roles will be more defined and Riley wilable to knuckle down after the tragedy in his life from over a year ago. We will be able to look back at this thread and judge. I have no doubt it will not be a winger's comparison.
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| It wasnt that long ago that most of the Crust munchers thought Karl Pryce was better than Matt King....
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| Rileys future is on the wing now that we have Ratchford and he is more reliable than Charnley
Riley will score about the same number of tries maybe couple less than Charnley but his defensive ability will help his team rather than being at fault for a large amount of tries because of poor defence
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| There is no doubt riley is a bit more reliable and less prone to a mistake. But wingers should have a bit of 'X factor' about them and be able to win a game from nothing. I'm going for Charnley(only just) because he is more of a matchwinner.
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| i would have charnley.
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| I went for Riley, as the question was who would you have in your team. I would agree that Charnley has a bit extra going forward, but if you look at our threequarters, we have the flair, eighty yard players in the centre, with solid, excellent finishers outside them. We have the balance at the moment, and that's what it's about. So for Warrington I would say Riley is the better choice.
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| Riley was superb today, deserevd MOM.
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| Great display from the Ginger Winger today.
More of the same, please.
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| must have read this thread!
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| Charnley everytime.
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| The top young try scorer managed to again today. This poll is going the same way as Myler v Tomkins.
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